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Re: The Hop You Hate
« Reply #30 on: October 15, 2015, 07:49:08 pm »
Put me in the fuggle-loving camp as well, to me it reminds me of a pipe-tobacco earthiness.

As for least favorite hop, so far it's mosaic. Perhaps it's the beers that I've had that feature it, but it just comes as abrasive. Really resinous in a bad way.

That being said, I recently had a beer that tasted strongly of cat piss. Still trying to work out what hop caused that.
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I've never picked up cat pee from a hop or a beer. I'm guessing that I just detect it as something different, blackcurrant possibly.
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Re: The Hop You Hate
« Reply #31 on: October 15, 2015, 07:59:01 pm »
I have similar feelings as Denny with Citra. Nice when treated like a spice, but when it's a dominant flavor, it just kills a beer for me. I try and use just enough of it in IPA's to get a hint of flavor, but not so much that I can pick out the Citra flavor on it's own. I've found it can also overpower everything else. Even when I use it in smaller doses compared to other hops. Definitely one to be careful with.

3 months ago I would have said Comet. Then I had Russian River's single hop APA (Hop 2 It) made with it, and realized I'm just doing it wrong.
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Re: The Hop You Hate
« Reply #32 on: October 15, 2015, 08:01:27 pm »
I knew it was Mr. Bigglesworth all along. *bad kitty, no beer for you*

I have traced beers I don't like back to too much Chinook. It's interesting how our palates work -- and how they change over time.
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Re: The Hop You Hate
« Reply #33 on: October 15, 2015, 08:01:48 pm »
To be fair, my wife tasted the same beer and didn't get cat pee. I've heard that the "cat pee" thing is genetic, wondering if that is true.
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Re: The Hop You Hate
« Reply #34 on: October 15, 2015, 08:05:05 pm »
Once all the craft newbies get finished with the newer ipa's, things are likely to come full circle back to Centennial and Cascade. They have really fallen by the wayside the last few years.

SN's Celebration will be out soon! (although I'm sure they changed the recipe this year ;D )

I don't hate any hops, but I won't use Belma or Calypso again. Calypso had a strange bitterness to it and Belma didn't seem to have any flavor.
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Re: The Hop You Hate
« Reply #35 on: October 15, 2015, 08:05:27 pm »
I haven't run into any that I can say I hate. In reality though, I have not used anything too crazy. I did use Nelson last year in a saison and liked it, Citra is blended into my IPA with 4 others and I am not able to specifically pick it out. I am sure that when I do some smash brews to evaluate, I will find something I don't like. I just hope it's not Galaxy or Mosaic, as I just pre-ordered a pound of each in Label Peeler's pre order sale
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Re: The Hop You Hate
« Reply #36 on: October 15, 2015, 08:35:52 pm »
One hop I totally despise is the one you have to have but they are out of them!

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Re: The Hop You Hate
« Reply #37 on: October 15, 2015, 08:43:02 pm »
I hate sorachi ace the most.  Tastes like Pledge.
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Re: The Hop You Hate
« Reply #38 on: October 15, 2015, 08:44:06 pm »
Put me in the fuggle-loving camp as well, to me it reminds me of a pipe-tobacco earthiness.

As for least favorite hop, so far it's mosaic. Perhaps it's the beers that I've had that feature it, but it just comes as abrasive. Really resinous in a bad way.

That being said, I recently had a beer that tasted strongly of cat piss. Still trying to work out what hop caused that.
It must be that new proprietary hop... Mr Bigglesworth


I've never picked up cat pee from a hop or a beer. I'm guessing that I just detect it as something different, blackcurrant possibly.
I also don't pick up cat pee in beer but I sure as hell wish I detected my cat's litterbox as black currant!
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Re: The Hop You Hate
« Reply #39 on: October 15, 2015, 09:11:28 pm »
I see several posts about onion flavors. Isn't onion a sign of mistreated hop or hops that were left on the bine too long?

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Re: The Hop You Hate
« Reply #40 on: October 15, 2015, 09:12:19 pm »
I hate sorachi ace the most.  Tastes like Pledge.


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Re: The Hop You Hate
« Reply #41 on: October 15, 2015, 10:54:50 pm »
I hate Summit most of all.  Its like biting into a clove of garlic to me.  I also am not a fan of Simcoe.  I'll also throw a lot of you into fits by naming EKG as low on my list, too.  It usually comes across to me like Broccoli, Brussel Sprouts or Asparagus.  I didn't like El Dorado very much when I tried it at NHC this summer.

Unlike Denny, I love Fuggles (and Willamette) they never have that vegetal flavor that EKG gives me.
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Re: The Hop You Hate
« Reply #42 on: October 16, 2015, 04:44:25 am »
I was given 2 oz of Lemondrop hops and used them in a 30 min hop stand in an APA.
For the first 3 weeks I got a faint phenolic taste, but that faded away.
Not a hop I'd use again.
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Re: The Hop You Hate
« Reply #43 on: October 16, 2015, 05:15:29 am »
I don't care for Galena or Azacca. The Azacca that I used in an IPA smelled good (citrus, orange) when I added it to the boil, but I didn't get that in the flavor or aroma. It was mild and somewhat earthy.
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Re: The Hop You Hate
« Reply #44 on: October 16, 2015, 05:37:01 am »
besides mentioned fuggles- which seemingly was in every kit when i started brewing, I haven't come across a hated or dreaded hop..... yet.
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