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100% Vienna Lager
« on: October 16, 2015, 06:45:47 PM »
Anyone ever tried a 100% Vienna Malt lager? I've been debating in my head if I want to go 100% Vienna or split the Vienna with Pils and add a bit of Carahell and/or Munich.

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Re: 100% Vienna Lager
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2015, 06:59:26 PM »
I've not gone 100% yet, but on my last one, which I really loved, I did use 76% Vienna, with the rest being Munich and CaraMunich.  Turned out fantabulous with the 2206 yeast.  No pilsner malt necessary at all.
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Re: 100% Vienna Lager
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2015, 07:03:19 PM »
Anyone ever tried a 100% Vienna Malt lager? I've been debating in my head if I want to go 100% Vienna or split the Vienna with Pils and add a bit of Carahell and/or Munich.

I have.

It was very tasty but I tended to prefer one i make that is a mix of pils, vienna, maris otter and caravienne. 
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Re: 100% Vienna Lager
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2015, 02:53:07 AM »
Anyone ever tried a 100% Vienna Malt lager? I've been debating in my head if I want to go 100% Vienna or split the Vienna with Pils and add a bit of Carahell and/or Munich.

I have.

It was very tasty but I tended to prefer one i make that is a mix of pils, vienna, maris otter and caravienne.

Interesting choice in marris otter - now I'm wondering what a 100% MO lager would taste like

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Re: 100% Vienna Lager
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2015, 04:58:21 PM »
I've done it.  It was good, but almost insipid in its lack of complexity.
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Re: 100% Vienna Lager
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2015, 02:51:07 AM »

Anyone ever tried a 100% Vienna Malt lager? I've been debating in my head if I want to go 100% Vienna or split the Vienna with Pils and add a bit of Carahell and/or Munich.

I have.

It was very tasty but I tended to prefer one i make that is a mix of pils, vienna, maris otter and caravienne.

Interesting choice in marris otter - now I'm wondering what a 100% MO lager would taste like

100% MO lager is innovative but taste out of place. Once I made alt bier with MO and I would not do it again.
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Re: 100% Vienna Lager
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2015, 06:42:07 AM »
I'm about to keg my 100% Vienna Malt beer. Only difference is that I used US-05 so not a lager. It came out really clean and very drinkable. Mittelfrüh and Hersbrucker were used to balance the sweetness and it actually reminds me of a Kölsch style beer. Will post some pics later. :D

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Re: 100% Vienna Lager
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2015, 11:15:24 AM »
Oh yeah....... I'm reminded now about a SMASH beer competition that my club did about 5 years ago.  We each selected a different malt and a different hop.  We all agreed that the 100% Vienna beer (I forget the hop and the yeast) had without a doubt the most interesting and delicious malt flavor, and it won the comp.  I brewed my own Vienna lager with a high portion of Vienna only after my learnings from that comp/experiment.  So definitely, all Vienna can make a great beer -- and no debate over specialty malts required!  Just Vienna and roll.
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Re: 100% Vienna Lager
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2015, 04:47:12 PM »

100% MO lager is innovative but taste out of place. Once I made alt bier with MO and I would not do it again.

Totally agreed.  I find the flavor of MO out of place in many styles.
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Re: 100% Vienna Lager
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2015, 12:13:20 PM »
I can see how the biscuity character of MO could work in a Vienna lager if used with a balanced touch. Interesting idea.

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Re: 100% Vienna Lager
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2015, 02:08:17 PM »
I can see how the biscuity character of MO could work in a Vienna lager if used with a balanced touch. Interesting idea.
Indeed. I've subbed Vienna for MO before with good results. I've never thought of going the other way, but I can see the potential.
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Re: 100% Vienna Lager
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2015, 03:33:35 PM »
I've done it.  It was good, but almost insipid in its lack of complexity.

My experience, too.

My favorite Vienna recipe is the Mexican variety, 50% Vienna, 20% corn, 25% pils, 5% caravienne, then a little chocolate malt in the sparge to darken it a bit.

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Re: 100% Vienna Lager
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2015, 06:22:55 PM »
I've done it.  It was good, but almost insipid in its lack of complexity.
My experience, too.

My favorite Vienna recipe is the Mexican variety, 50% Vienna, 20% corn, 25% pils, 5% caravienne, then a little chocolate malt in the sparge to darken it a bit.
I might have to brew this one for Cinco de Mayo this year. Sounds damn tasty.
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Re: 100% Vienna Lager
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2015, 06:24:58 PM »
Never really understood the need to darken viennas.
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Re: 100% Vienna Lager
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2015, 07:40:56 PM »
I've done it.  It was good, but almost insipid in its lack of complexity.

My experience, too.

My favorite Vienna recipe is the Mexican variety, 50% Vienna, 20% corn, 25% pils, 5% caravienne, then a little chocolate malt in the sparge to darken it a bit.

Chumley, what does your hop schedule look like with this grist, something noble for just a bittering charge, FWH, anything late?
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