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poor man's bottling from the keg procedure
« on: November 02, 2015, 08:30:56 PM »
Yo, people, what's the best procedure to bottle from a keg when not in possession of a beer gun? I don't need to fill a lot of bottles, so I don't want to buy this expensive toy right now.
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Re: poor man's bottling from the keg procedure
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2015, 09:28:09 PM »
I do have a Beer Gun but I only use it if bottling up a lot of beer at once. But most of the time to bottle up a few bottles or a growler I just stick a bottling wand into the end of a standard picnic tap. I use the non spring loaded type. I purge the co2 of my keg and start filling. When things get really slow I turn on the gas valve to give it a hit of co2 to keep things flowing. If im bottling something that will be sitting around a while I purge the bottle with some co2.

Yeah the Beer Gun makes this all a little easier but it can still be done just fine without it.

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Re: poor man's bottling from the keg procedure
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2015, 11:31:48 PM »
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=24678

This is how I do it.  Easy.  Cheep.

Yup. I add a 2 inch length of tubing that fits over both the racking cane and the cobra tap end to prevent the cane from slipping free of the tap. if this happens you get a nice counter pressure beer geyser which is not at all fun.
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Re: poor man's bottling from the keg procedure
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2015, 01:03:38 AM »
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=24678

This is how I do it.  Easy.  Cheep.

Yup. I add a 2 inch length of tubing that fits over both the racking cane and the cobra tap end to prevent the cane from slipping free of the tap. if this happens you get a nice counter pressure beer geyser which is not at all fun.

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Re: poor man's bottling from the keg procedure
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2015, 04:31:17 PM »
Yo, people, what's the best procedure to bottle from a keg when not in possession of a beer gun? I don't need to fill a lot of bottles, so I don't want to buy this expensive toy right now.

Buy a #2 or 2 1/2 one hole stopper.  Stick a piece of tubing through it so that the tubing sticking out the bottom is long enough to reach the bottom of the bottle once the stopper is seated.  Leave a few inches sticking out the top.  Stick the tubing coming out the top into a beer tap.  Seat the stopper in a bottle.  Open the tap.  The beer will fill about 1/3 of the bottle before pressure builds up and stops the flow.  At that point, use your thumb to very slightly crack the stopper and start the beer flowing again.  When the bottle is full close the tap.  No foaming and you retain the beer's carbonation.  This works so well I've never used anything else.
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Re: poor man's bottling from the keg procedure
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2015, 04:52:06 PM »
Some people have worried about infection from the tap. Do y'all recommend any particular cleaning procedure (cleaning the tap) before filling a bottle.

PS. I have a beer gun. It is a pain to clean before and after use.

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Re: poor man's bottling from the keg procedure
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2015, 04:52:51 PM »
Yo, people, what's the best procedure to bottle from a keg when not in possession of a beer gun? I don't need to fill a lot of bottles, so I don't want to buy this expensive toy right now.

Buy a #2 or 2 1/2 one hole stopper.  Stick a piece of tubing through it so that the tubing sticking out the bottom is long enough to reach the bottom of the bottle once the stopper is seated.  Leave a few inches sticking out the top.  Stick the tubing coming out the top into a beer tap.  Seat the stopper in a bottle.  Open the tap.  The beer will fill about 1/3 of the bottle before pressure builds up and stops the flow.  At that point, use your thumb to very slightly crack the stopper and start the beer flowing again.  When the bottle is full close the tap.  No foaming and you retain the beer's carbonation.  This works so well I've never used anything else.

Is this done at serving pressure?

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Re: poor man's bottling from the keg procedure
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2015, 04:54:11 PM »
Some people have worried about infection from the tap. Do y'all recommend any particular cleaning procedure (cleaning the tap) before filling a bottle.

PS. I have a beer gun. It is a pain to clean before and after use.

I bottle for a picnic tap, so I take a clean tap and line and run sanitizer through it prior to bottling.
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Re: poor man's bottling from the keg procedure
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2015, 04:55:27 PM »
Yo, people, what's the best procedure to bottle from a keg when not in possession of a beer gun? I don't need to fill a lot of bottles, so I don't want to buy this expensive toy right now.

Buy a #2 or 2 1/2 one hole stopper.  Stick a piece of tubing through it so that the tubing sticking out the bottom is long enough to reach the bottom of the bottle once the stopper is seated.  Leave a few inches sticking out the top.  Stick the tubing coming out the top into a beer tap.  Seat the stopper in a bottle.  Open the tap.  The beer will fill about 1/3 of the bottle before pressure builds up and stops the flow.  At that point, use your thumb to very slightly crack the stopper and start the beer flowing again.  When the bottle is full close the tap.  No foaming and you retain the beer's carbonation.  This works so well I've never used anything else.

Is this done at serving pressure?

No. I find it works best a very low pressure.  5 PSI max on my system.  It's also advisable to overcarb slightly to compensate for any loss in the bottling.  I know Denny says he gets no foam, but I always get some.
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Re: poor man's bottling from the keg procedure
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2015, 05:52:29 PM »
The only thing I'll add is that it really helps if you get your bottles really cold as well

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Re: poor man's bottling from the keg procedure
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2015, 05:54:31 PM »
Yo, people, what's the best procedure to bottle from a keg when not in possession of a beer gun? I don't need to fill a lot of bottles, so I don't want to buy this expensive toy right now.

Buy a #2 or 2 1/2 one hole stopper.  Stick a piece of tubing through it so that the tubing sticking out the bottom is long enough to reach the bottom of the bottle once the stopper is seated.  Leave a few inches sticking out the top.  Stick the tubing coming out the top into a beer tap.  Seat the stopper in a bottle.  Open the tap.  The beer will fill about 1/3 of the bottle before pressure builds up and stops the flow.  At that point, use your thumb to very slightly crack the stopper and start the beer flowing again.  When the bottle is full close the tap.  No foaming and you retain the beer's carbonation.  This works so well I've never used anything else.

Is this done at serving pressure?

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Re: poor man's bottling from the keg procedure
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2015, 06:53:57 PM »
I have done the method Denny describes before. The stopper slows/stops the flow of the beer into the bottle (it's counter pressure). To keep it going slow at serving pressure you would need to be delicate when letting air in.

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Re: poor man's bottling from the keg procedure
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2015, 06:57:58 PM »
Ive had good luck with a bottling wand shoved into a cobra/picnic tap. I drop pressure to about 5psi. I purge the bottles with CO2, then fill till liquid is coming out and cap quickly.