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Adding sugar to primary
« on: November 12, 2015, 12:26:37 AM »
So had a great brew day, then remembered as I was running off to the fermenters that I didn't add the sugar at the end of the boil. I figure I'll just add it to the primary instead at high krausen tomorrow. But question: do I make a syrup with some water, boil, cool, then add; or just dump a lb of sugar in and hope for the best? Experiences?

This is 1 lb table sugar / 5 gal 1.080 OG BTW.

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Re: Adding sugar to primary
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2015, 12:54:46 AM »
So had a great brew day, then remembered as I was running off to the fermenters that I didn't add the sugar at the end of the boil. I figure I'll just add it to the primary instead at high krausen tomorrow. But question: do I make a syrup with some water, boil, cool, then add; or just dump a lb of sugar in and hope for the best? Experiences?

This is 1 lb table sugar / 5 gal 1.080 OG BTW.

thanks!
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Re: Adding sugar to primary
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2015, 12:58:04 AM »
Just pour it in, it will be fine. Be sure to anticipate it may end up drier that you expected.

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Re: Adding sugar to primary
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2015, 12:59:55 AM »
Just pour it in, it will be fine. Be sure to anticipate it may end up drier that you expected.

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Re: Adding sugar to primary
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2015, 01:28:22 AM »
Just pour it in, it will be fine. Be sure to anticipate it may end up drier that you expected.

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Thank guys! Its a DIPA so drying it out is the plan.

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Re: Adding sugar to primary
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2015, 02:06:23 AM »
Would adding at high krausen cause a foam eruption?

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Re: Adding sugar to primary
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2015, 02:33:06 AM »
Not in my experience.
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Re: Adding sugar to primary
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2015, 02:37:58 AM »
If I sprinkle, if anything the crystals will knock down the foam.

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Re: Adding sugar to primary
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2015, 02:25:26 PM »
I've added sugar (crystals) to secondary as krausen subsided on a tripel. Good results. As said, will definitely dry the beer some - a good thing on a tripel IMO.
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Re: Adding sugar to primary
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2015, 02:34:39 PM »
I've added sugar (crystals) to secondary as krausen subsided on a tripel. Good results. As said, will definitely dry the beer some - a good thing on a tripel IMO.

IME it dries the beer out a good 5 gravity points or more every time I have done it. Otehrs have stated it doesn't have any effect. So YMMV.

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Re: Adding sugar to primary
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2015, 02:56:52 PM »
I added 1/4 lb of granulated sugar during active fermentation this week and got an overflow.  Normally I wait until the fermentation subsides more to avoid this issue.

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Re: Adding sugar to primary
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2015, 02:59:02 PM »
I've added sugar (crystals) to secondary as krausen subsided on a tripel. Good results. As said, will definitely dry the beer some - a good thing on a tripel IMO.

IME it dries the beer out a good 5 gravity points or more every time I have done it. Otehrs have stated it doesn't have any effect. So YMMV.

Yeah, I stopped doing it on saison because (mashing low enough) I normally get close to or at 1.002 anyway. But beers like tripel dry out great for me doing this.
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Re: Adding sugar to primary
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2015, 04:03:32 PM »
Well we got a little foamy over the top of the bucket. Nothing a StarSan spray down.

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Re: Adding sugar to primary
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2015, 05:28:07 PM »
IME it dries the beer out a good 5 gravity points or more every time I have done it. Otehrs have stated it doesn't have any effect. So YMMV.

Just from the stoichiometry, dFG = -0.4*dOG. If the FG doesn't drop after adding (a significant amount of) sugar, then the sugar didn't ferment out.

Anyway, I've poured in dry sugar without issue, but I prefer to make a syrup. I'm probably over-thinking it, but I doubt being in direct contact with crystalline sugar is a happy environment for a yeast cell.
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Re: Adding sugar to primary
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2015, 07:45:39 PM »

Anyway, I've poured in dry sugar without issue, but I prefer to make a syrup. I'm probably over-thinking it, but I doubt being in direct contact with crystalline sugar is a happy environment for a yeast cell.

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