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Re: can someone explain
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2010, 06:42:45 AM »
Go have a few pints. That will clear things right up.  ;D
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Re: can someone explain
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2010, 07:36:50 AM »
They need a GIANT catwalk!

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Re: can someone explain
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2010, 08:39:13 AM »
Great way to grasp just how bally deep this thing is:

http://www.ouramazingplanet.com/infographic-tallest-mountain-to-deepest-ocean-trench-0249/

Don't forget the Colorado River runs through the Grand Canyon... imagine if sea water were to make its way in.  Where does the Colorado River empty?  It must be above sea level.... how then is the GC below sea level?  Now I'm confused!   :D

The GC rim is about 7000-8000 ft above sea level and is only about a mile or so deep so the river is still way above sea level.
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Re: can someone explain
« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2010, 08:47:09 AM »
Where does the Colorado River empty?

Nowhere. Used to be into the Gulf of California, but all the water is used for agriculture now:


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Re: can someone explain
« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2010, 09:55:30 AM »
Yes, the Colorado does not flow to the Gulf of Cortez anymore, has not for some time.  Agriculture and golf courses get most of it,as said.  The only reason water crosses the border to Mexico is due to a treaty, and at that it is only 1.5 million acre feet.

"Cadillac Desert" by Mark Reisner covers this and other aspects of the West's water.
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Re: can someone explain
« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2010, 10:43:31 AM »
Why isn't anybody screaming about the loss (extinction?) of animal life and habitat over that?   ;)

Since BP is spoiling the Gulf of Mexico, I think we should all demand they restore the Gulf of Cortez.   ;D  ;)
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Re: can someone explain
« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2010, 08:32:01 AM »
... how we could put a man on the moon 40 years ago but cannot close a leaky pipe now.

We spent years and millions of dollars to send a man to the moon. We did not wake up one day and tell nasa to send someone to the moon in a week.

isnt this basic plumbing? 

Obviously not. Otherwise joe the plumber would be down there fixing it

have we regressed that much in 40 years that it is now beyond the limits of our technology to fix a leaky pipe? 

No, in fact it is quite the opposite. Our advanced technology has given voice to millions of crackpots and armchair quarterbacks who equate leaky pipe = easy fix. The legitimate ideas are being vetted and discussed by real engineers :)

This was an interesting article. BBC readers sent their ideas for fixing the leak and they had an expert comment on them
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/us_and_canada/10268979.stm
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Re: can someone explain
« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2010, 08:57:20 AM »
... how we could put a man on the moon 40 years ago but cannot close a leaky pipe now.

We spent years and millions of dollars to send a man to the moon. We did not wake up one day and tell nasa to send someone to the moon in a week.


 Explorer 1 was launched January 31, 1958.

 Neil Armstrong stepped out onto the movie studio in Arizon...er, the Moon on July 20, 1969.
 
 That's a fairly quick turnaround from when JFK beat his fist on the podium and said we will have a man on the Moon by the end of the decade. I bet a bunch of NASA engineer's a$$es snapped shut that day ;D

 As far as the oil, I can't believe a plan wasn't already in place. Always plan for the worst case scenario and all the other problems will already be taken care of.
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Re: can someone explain
« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2010, 09:19:20 AM »
As far as the oil, I can't believe a plan wasn't already in place. Always plan for the worst case scenario and all the other problems will already be taken care of.
That would be a sensible idea, but corporate greed often outweighs commen sense >:(
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Re: can someone explain
« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2010, 12:55:37 PM »
Why isn't anybody screaming about the loss (extinction?) of animal life and habitat over that?   ;)

Uhhhhmmmm.... because we don't eat horned toads, sidewinders or dessert scorpions.  ;) Oysters and shrimp on the other hand... I know I am screaming mad because my most favorite vacation spot is gone. Once you see how beautiful the gulf is ... or used to be ... you'd understand.
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Re: can someone explain
« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2010, 01:16:11 PM »
Uhhhhmmmm.... because we don't eat horned toads, sidewinders or dessert scorpions.

Damn straight! Scorpions aren't dessert, they're more of an appetizer. ;)

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Re: can someone explain
« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2010, 01:54:55 PM »
As far as the oil, I can't believe a plan wasn't already in place. Always plan for the worst case scenario and all the other problems will already be taken care of.

What's even more unbelievable is that despite there not being a plan to deal with this our government, that's right our's, still gave them the go-ahead and the necessary permits. 

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Re: can someone explain
« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2010, 02:00:06 PM »
Uhhhhmmmm.... because we don't eat horned toads, sidewinders or dessert scorpions.

Damn straight! Scorpions aren't dessert, they're more of an appetizer. ;)

Retirees in Lake Havasu want golf courses and tourists in Vegas want air conditioning. Neither of them cares about tidal estuaries in Mexico.

yuk, yuk.  ::) :P
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Re: can someone explain
« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2010, 02:18:10 PM »
As far as the oil, I can't believe a plan wasn't already in place. Always plan for the worst case scenario and all the other problems will already be taken care of.

What's even more unbelievable is that despite there not being a plan to deal with this our government, that's right our's, still gave them the go-ahead and the necessary permits. 

We can't have the government intruding on the rights of corporations to make money, that would be unamerican :)
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Re: can someone explain
« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2010, 07:34:24 PM »
Once you see how beautiful the gulf is ... or used to be ... you'd understand.

+1. Go to Sanibel Island once, and watch the dolphins play off shore. Nothing like it. Oh, and Major, you and the family are welcome to spend this summers vacation with me, in Idaho.  :D
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