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Re: can someone explain
« Reply #30 on: June 15, 2010, 04:15:31 AM »
Once you see how beautiful the gulf is ... or used to be ... you'd understand.

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Thanks. Don't be surprised if I take you up on that.  8)
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Re: can someone explain
« Reply #31 on: June 15, 2010, 10:19:28 AM »
As far as the oil, I can't believe a plan wasn't already in place. Always plan for the worst case scenario and all the other problems will already be taken care of.

What's even more unbelievable is that despite there not being a plan to deal with this our government, that's right our's, still gave them the go-ahead and the necessary permits. 

We can't have the government intruding on the rights of corporations to make money, that would be unamerican :)


That's fine and OK.   But things will change now that we have one of the worst disasters in the history of this country.

This is absolutely dispicable. The effects of this disaster will be unprecedented. What a crying shame this is...

...and who will be held accountable?

...or better yet who should be held accountable?

Some lawyers are going to make alot of money on this one.
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Re: can someone explain
« Reply #32 on: June 15, 2010, 12:50:03 PM »
That's fine and OK.   But things will change now that we have one of the worst disasters in the history of this country.

This is absolutely dispicable. The effects of this disaster will be unprecedented. What a crying shame this is...

I disagree after watching two members of our fine goverment saying we need to keep drilling and its only 1 disaster in the history of gulf drilling :o  < yesterdays “Hardball with Chris Matthews,”  >

Nothing will change as people need cheap gas and are willing to do whatever it takes to get it, sounds like a junkie looking for the next fix

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Re: can someone explain
« Reply #33 on: June 15, 2010, 01:28:31 PM »
Today Obama said "the gulf will be better than it was before the spill" meaning, after the clean-up efforts have taken place and this administration along with BP have used all the resources to clean the mess up the gulf will be restored.  

I don't know why he made such a comment.  I don't think it is possible to clean such a mess up.  The Exxon Valdez Alaskan Oil spill is still not completely cleaned up and Obama makes this comment.  Why?

I think i'm going to watch the laker game tonight instead of watching his address to the nation.  What a Tragedy :-[

I some how feel I'm indirectly contributing to this oil company's spill.  I feel guilty because I gas my car up and use oil everyday.  Furthermore, I feel like the money I used to pay for the gas and other BP products is a saying i support you BP and other mismanaged oil companies.
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Re: can someone explain
« Reply #34 on: June 15, 2010, 01:35:05 PM »
And now lightning hits a ship in the cleanup effort and starts a fire...almost sounds like someone doesn't want us to clean up the oil...
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Re: can someone explain
« Reply #35 on: June 15, 2010, 02:07:23 PM »
We can't have the government intruding on the rights of corporations to make money, that would be unamerican :)


That's fine and OK.   But things will change now that we have one of the worst disasters in the history of this country.

This is absolutely dispicable. The effects of this disaster will be unprecedented. What a crying shame this is...

...and who will be held accountable?

...or better yet who should be held accountable?

Some lawyers are going to make alot of money on this one.

My comment was more tongue in cheek. I think we should try and plug the hole with BP executives and people who put "drill baby drill" bumper stickers on their cars ;D

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Re: can someone explain
« Reply #36 on: June 15, 2010, 02:12:39 PM »
To lighten the mood: BP's new logo

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Re: can someone explain
« Reply #37 on: June 15, 2010, 02:44:12 PM »
I disagree after watching two members of our fine goverment saying we need to keep drilling and its only 1 disaster in the history of gulf drilling :o  < yesterdays “Hardball with Chris Matthews,”  >

Chris Matthews doesn't know much.

Google "Ixtoc 1".  It was down by the Yucatan, but still the Gulf of Mexico.   It did come to the US shore.   From a quick google search.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/2010/06/12/1228624/ixtoc-offshore-well-gulfs-other.html
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Re: can someone explain
« Reply #38 on: June 15, 2010, 05:10:49 PM »

Chris Matthews doesn't know much.


It wasn't that talking head Chris Matthews but BOTH politicians from BOTH parties who BOTH were saying we need to keep drilling, regardless of the damages from this disaster.

Thats why I say we're doomed, history is something to learn from and not forget:



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Re: can someone explain
« Reply #39 on: June 15, 2010, 06:30:13 PM »

Thanks. Don't be surprised if I take you up on that.  8)

 Looking forward to it. And as always, pants optional.  ;D
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Re: can someone explain
« Reply #40 on: June 15, 2010, 06:39:10 PM »
Why isn't anybody screaming about the loss (extinction?) of animal life and habitat over that?   ;)

Uhhhhmmmm.... because we don't eat horned toads, sidewinders or dessert scorpions.  ;) Oysters and shrimp on the other hand... I know I am screaming mad because my most favorite vacation spot is gone. Once you see how beautiful the gulf is ... or used to be ... you'd understand.

We don't eat west coaster's either.... perhaps their extinction via restoring the flow of the Colorado River will bring back the species we did eat out of the Gulf of Cortez.   ???   ;)  And create new jobs for the fisherman etc surrounding the Gulf of Mexico.   ;D

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Re: can someone explain
« Reply #41 on: June 16, 2010, 05:14:55 PM »
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Re: can someone explain
« Reply #42 on: June 17, 2010, 03:47:38 PM »
  I think what they should do, is drop a wedding ring down there, and slip on the pipe. I guarantee you once it get a rin, it quits putting out!  ;D
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Re: can someone explain
« Reply #43 on: June 17, 2010, 04:44:00 PM »
Now that's F'n funny Weaze!  ;D
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Re: can someone explain
« Reply #44 on: June 17, 2010, 06:57:37 PM »
Thanks Weaze!  This thread definitely needed some levity!