Membership questions? Log in issues? Email info@brewersassociation.org

Author Topic: Batch sparge sparging question  (Read 2488 times)

Offline syncopadence

  • Assistant Brewer
  • ***
  • Posts: 162
Batch sparge sparging question
« on: January 15, 2016, 11:36:30 pm »
After you add the sparge water, do you let it sit for a little bit, or do you start draining after another vorlauf? Also, does runoff speed matter, or is that more for fly sparging?
Thanks for any help.

Offline mainebrewer

  • Brewmaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 594
Re: Batch sparge sparging question
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2016, 04:23:37 am »
After you add the sparge water, stir the mash, vorlauf and drain.
Run off speed doesn't matter, at least on my system.
"It's not that people are ignorant, it's just that they know so much that just isn't true." Ronald Reagan

Offline ynotbrusum

  • Official Poobah of No Life. (I Got Ban Hammered by Drew)
  • *********
  • Posts: 4887
Re: Batch sparge sparging question
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2016, 04:55:52 am »
I suggest stirring it all after adding the sparge water, then vorlauf til clear (sometimes it helps to run the vorlauf slowly to get the grain bed set again), but once it is clear, I let it rip, usually.  If using a lot of adjuncts, consider adding rice hulls to make it easier to drain.
Hodge Garage Brewing: "Brew with a glad heart!"

Offline bengelbrau

  • Assistant Brewer
  • ***
  • Posts: 146
Re: Batch sparge sparging question
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2016, 07:30:06 am »
I let it sit for about 5  minutes or so, on the theory (untested) that reaching equilibrium between the  sugars in the grain and in the water takes some time.

Offline Slowbrew

  • I spend way too much time on the AHA forum
  • ********
  • Posts: 2859
  • The Slowly Losing IT Brewery in Urbandale, IA
Re: Batch sparge sparging question
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2016, 08:23:16 am »
I let it sit for a few minutes with the idea that the vorlauf will clean up more quickly if the grain has time to settle for a bit.

I have no evidence to support this but it has always worked for me.   :)

Paul
Where the heck are we going?  And what's with this hand basket?

Offline fmader

  • Senior Brewmaster
  • ******
  • Posts: 1675
Re: Batch sparge sparging question
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2016, 08:25:10 am »
I used to let it rest for 5-10 minutes. Now I just stir and run it off. I've seen absolutely no difference except for time.
Frank

Offline HoosierBrew

  • I must live here
  • **********
  • Posts: 13031
  • Indianapolis,IN
Re: Batch sparge sparging question
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2016, 08:28:11 am »
I used to let it rest for 5-10 minutes. Now I just stir and run it off. I've seen absolutely no difference except for time.


Same here. I've never noticed a difference either.
Jon H.

Offline denny

  • Administrator
  • Retired with too much time on my hands
  • *****
  • Posts: 27129
  • Noti OR [1991.4, 287.6deg] AR
    • Dennybrew
Re: Batch sparge sparging question
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2016, 09:08:03 am »
I let it sit for about 5  minutes or so, on the theory (untested) that reaching equilibrium between the  sugars in the grain and in the water takes some time.

I did the testing for you...many, many times.  It doesn't matter.  You gain nothing from letting it sit.
Life begins at 60.....1.060, that is!

www.dennybrew.com

The best, sharpest, funniest, weirdest and most knowledgable minds in home brewing contribute on the AHA forum. - Alewyfe

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

Offline BrewBama

  • Official Poobah of No Life. (I Got Ban Hammered by Drew)
  • *********
  • Posts: 6074
Re: Batch sparge sparging question
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2016, 12:39:35 pm »
Once again - thank you Denny!

Offline PORTERHAUS

  • Brewer
  • ****
  • Posts: 475
  • NW Indiana
Re: Batch sparge sparging question
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2016, 01:37:04 pm »
I used to let it rest for 5-10 minutes. Now I just stir and run it off. I've seen absolutely no difference except for time.


Same here. I've never noticed a difference either.

Same here, I used to give it time to settle. Don't need to, start vorlauf right away.

Online pete b

  • Official Poobah of No Life. (I Got Ban Hammered by Drew)
  • *********
  • Posts: 4148
  • Barre, Ma
Re: Batch sparge sparging question
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2016, 05:53:02 am »
I wasn't expecting to learn anything from this thread. I always wait a few minutes and now. Won't. I do let it drain fully open.
Don't let the bastards cheer you up.

RPIScotty

  • Guest
Batch sparge sparging question
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2016, 07:19:14 am »
I let it sit for about 5  minutes or so, on the theory (untested) that reaching equilibrium between the  sugars in the grain and in the water takes some time.

I did the testing for you...many, many times.  It doesn't matter.  You gain nothing from letting it sit.

What will you say next? That "equal runnings" has no effect on efficiency?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Offline denny

  • Administrator
  • Retired with too much time on my hands
  • *****
  • Posts: 27129
  • Noti OR [1991.4, 287.6deg] AR
    • Dennybrew
Re: Batch sparge sparging question
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2016, 09:50:17 am »
I let it sit for about 5  minutes or so, on the theory (untested) that reaching equilibrium between the  sugars in the grain and in the water takes some time.

I did the testing for you...many, many times.  It doesn't matter.  You gain nothing from letting it sit.

What will you say next? That "equal runnings" has no effect on efficiency?

You devil!  ;)  If you keep the runnings within a gal. or so of each other, the difference in efficiency is so small that it just doesn't matter.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Life begins at 60.....1.060, that is!

www.dennybrew.com

The best, sharpest, funniest, weirdest and most knowledgable minds in home brewing contribute on the AHA forum. - Alewyfe

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

RPIScotty

  • Guest
Re: Batch sparge sparging question
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2016, 10:05:47 am »

I let it sit for about 5  minutes or so, on the theory (untested) that reaching equilibrium between the  sugars in the grain and in the water takes some time.

I did the testing for you...many, many times.  It doesn't matter.  You gain nothing from letting it sit.

What will you say next? That "equal runnings" has no effect on efficiency?

You devil!  ;)  If you keep the runnings within a gal. or so of each other, the difference in efficiency is so small that it just doesn't matter.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I couldn't resist!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk