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First American Red Ale Recipe Help
« on: January 15, 2016, 02:06:58 AM »
So, St. Patrick's day isn't too far off and it'll be the first time I can brew in time for the holiday. I want to make an American Red Ale (something almost on the hoppy side).  I am a partial mash brewer.  Here is what I was thinking.
Grains / Extract:
3.3 lbs Briess Pale Ale Liquid Extract
3 lbs Sparkling Amber Dry Extract
2 lbs Golden Promise Pale Malt
12oz CaraRed
10oz Crystal 60
6oz Crystal 80

Hops:
I was thinking a combo of Azacca and Jarrylo
or go with a Cascade Pekko combo

Yeast: US-05

any feedback would be appreciated

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Re: First American Red Ale Recipe Help
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2016, 03:10:04 PM »
What does your hop schedule look like?  What is your predicted IBU and SRM?

I'd recommend, if you're going to use Crystal, to just use one.

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Re: First American Red Ale Recipe Help
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2016, 03:14:30 PM »
Why not a hop combo of cascade/azacca? I only say that because I didn't care for Jarrylo the one time that I used it.
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Re: First American Red Ale Recipe Help
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2016, 03:27:44 PM »
Why not a hop combo of cascade/azacca? I only say that because I didn't care for Jarrylo the one time that I used it.


I agree on both counts. Cascade /Azacca is nice and I don't care for Jarrylo at all.


Edit - Also, I would drop the amber extract. It already is loaded with crystal malts that you don't need, as you're adding a lb + Carared. Secondly, all that combined crystal will drive up your FG, leaving you with a sweet beer. I'd replace the amber extract with 3 lbs Briess pilsen DME if you can find it. It's much more fermentable and consequently will leave you with a much more drinkable beer.
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Re: First American Red Ale Recipe Help
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2016, 04:56:02 PM »
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Re: First American Red Ale Recipe Help
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2016, 05:35:03 PM »
thank you so much for the help.  I'll post an edited recipe shortly.

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Re: First American Red Ale Recipe Help
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2016, 05:37:00 PM »
can I post a link to an outside this site where I got the idea for the recipe?

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Re: First American Red Ale Recipe Help
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2016, 06:12:40 PM »
Why not a hop combo of cascade/azacca? I only say that because I didn't care for Jarrylo the one time that I used it.


I agree on both counts. Cascade /Azacca is nice and I don't care for Jarrylo at all.


Edit - Also, I would drop the amber extract. It already is loaded with crystal malts that you don't need, as you're adding a lb + Carared. Secondly, all that combined crystal will drive up your FG, leaving you with a sweet beer. I'd replace the amber extract with 3 lbs Briess pilsen DME if you can find it. It's much more fermentable and consequently will leave you with a much more drinkable beer.

Thanks for the tip on the pilsen dme instead.  will do!

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Re: First American Red Ale Recipe Help
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2016, 02:10:10 AM »
Heres the updated rated recipe:

Grains / Extract:
3.3 lbs Briess Pale Ale Liquid Extract
3.3 lbs Briess Pilsen Liquid Extract
2 lbs Golden Promise Pale Malt
12oz CaraRed
6oz Crystal 80

After your advice, Ill do a cascade and azacca combo (ill have 4 ounces of each hop to use).  I think this will almost be a red ipa?

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Re: First American Red Ale Recipe Help
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2016, 02:17:41 AM »
What's your hop schedule? Obviously you get to decide - if you're not looking for IPA level hops you can cut back.
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Re: First American Red Ale Recipe Help
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2016, 03:28:00 AM »
I havent thought of it.  Any suggestions? I have other hops I can use for bittering.

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Re: First American Red Ale Recipe Help
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2016, 03:38:07 AM »
I havent thought of it.  Any suggestions? I have other hops I can use for bittering.


I wouldn't use those two hops to bitter. Something like Magnum, Warrior, or even Columbus or Chinook will do just fine. Do you use software? Since you mention an American red ale on the hoppy side, you could add 30 IBU of a bittering hop for 60 mins, then add 1/2 oz each of Cascade and Azacca at 15 mins, 10 mins, 5 mins and at flameout. Then dry hop an oz of each for 5 days. That assumes a 5 gallon recipe. This would give you a beer with the hop character of a hoppy pale ale, but yet maltier with the crystal and carared. It'd be good.
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Re: First American Red Ale Recipe Help
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2016, 03:40:11 AM »
yeah, I have warrior I can bitter with.  I own/use beersmith2. Thanks for the input!  Would you categorize it as an american red ale? american red ipa?

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Re: First American Red Ale Recipe Help
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2016, 03:44:00 AM »
yeah, I have warrior I can bitter with.  I own/use beersmith2. Thanks for the input!  Would you categorize it as an american red ale? american red ipa?


I'd call it a West Coast Amber, definitely not an IPA which would be hopped a good bit higher. And if you wanted to emphasize the hop character a little further you could add a tsp of gypsum to the boil. Also, you might consider using RO (reverse osmosis) water for this beer given the extract base you're using. It won't have any chlorine and works well with extract.
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Re: First American Red Ale Recipe Help
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2016, 03:46:40 AM »
alright thanks. I just want to make it nice and red for st patricks. most of my friends are used to irish reds but never something like this.