That's a great testimonial weazeltoe. No physical gifts for me, but was not expecting any either. The knowledge I have gained here easily outweighs any gained through books or from other brewers(read LHBS employees) I have said it before, that I am not certain that I would still be brewing 3+ years after starting if I had not found this forum. Everyone ere is so helpful and generous with their knowledge, it is truly remarkable. I don't have much experience with any other online forum, on any topic, so I have just always felt that that's how other forums work. A quick look elsewhere for brewing or other topics of interest have shown me that this forum and these members are in a class all their own. A very big thanks goes out to all share endlessly here, you have provided a wealth of knowledge to me and everyone else who comes here for help.