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chit, spitz, carapils and carafoam
« on: January 28, 2016, 06:08:42 am »
Their uses have been widely debated for adding body and stabilizing foam. Do you use chit, spitz, carapils or carafoam in your helles? If so, which do you prefer?

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Re: chit, spitz, carapils and carafoam
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2016, 07:48:35 am »
I generally don't use any of those, but I definitely plan on incorporating some. I plan to use some Carahell in my next helles, 5% I'm thinking. I usually do 90% pils, and 10% either Vienna or Munich I.
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Re: chit, spitz, carapils and carafoam
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2016, 07:52:49 am »
Just a comment, carafoam is Weyermann's carapils in the rest of the world. They didn't get the trademark for carapils in the USA, Briess did.

I have been using carafoam to keep it all German.
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Re: chit, spitz, carapils and carafoam
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2016, 09:22:24 am »
Spitz and Chit are essentially the same: undermodified malt. The malting process reduces the betaglucan content of the raw malt. I prefer to use very small quantities of flaked barley or flaked wheat to produce a similar effect (improving body and heading). It does take more of the wheat product to produce an equivalent betaglucan contribution of flaked barley. Be careful with flaked barley since I find it does have a raw grainy taste that can be objectionable in pale beers. (it pairs well with roasted grain flavors though :) )
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Re: chit, spitz, carapils and carafoam
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2016, 01:28:25 pm »
By the way, where can a fella buy some chit malt? I see this Brew Brothers place has it, but are there any other places? A web search isn't turning up a whole lot of results...
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Re: chit, spitz, carapils and carafoam
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2016, 01:30:19 pm »
By the way, where can a fella buy some chit malt? I see this Brew Brothers place has it, but are there any other places? A web search isn't turning up a whole lot of results...


I get mine from Brew Brothers. Not a lot of sources for homebrewers.
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Re: chit, spitz, carapils and carafoam
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2016, 01:33:26 pm »
By the way, where can a fella buy some chit malt? I see this Brew Brothers place has it, but are there any other places? A web search isn't turning up a whole lot of results...


I get mine from Brew Brothers. Not a lot of sources for homebrewers.

That is where I ordered mine from as well. 
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Re: chit, spitz, carapils and carafoam
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2016, 02:06:17 pm »
lately, been using carahell with good results for added foam and body. anywhere from 2-5% depending on beer.

edit: 9% in my o'fest...lovely contribution.
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Re: chit, spitz, carapils and carafoam
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2016, 02:22:50 pm »
Great. Thanks for the info fellas.
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Re: chit, spitz, carapils and carafoam
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2016, 05:20:09 pm »
By the way, where can a fella buy some chit malt? I see this Brew Brothers place has it, but are there any other places? A web search isn't turning up a whole lot of results...

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Re: chit, spitz, carapils and carafoam
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2016, 05:39:40 pm »
I only just started experimenting with chit malt, so I can't answer the original question.

Currently, 8% chit in an amber lager is feeling like a bit much though...
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Re: chit, spitz, carapils and carafoam
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2016, 06:56:32 pm »
I can get chit malt from Country Malts.

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Re: chit, spitz, carapils and carafoam
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2016, 07:18:40 am »
Country Malts doesn't let me order from them, must be a pro brewer thing. And Best Malz doesn't either. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough...
I might order some from Brew Brothers eventually, but shipping is insane! I don't want to order 5lbs of chit malt and pay $15 for shipping. I don't need much else for ingredients...guess I'm SOL for now.
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Re: chit, spitz, carapils and carafoam
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2016, 07:29:38 am »
I might order some from Brew Brothers eventually, but shipping is insane! I don't want to order 5lbs of chit malt and pay $15 for shipping. I don't need much else for ingredients...guess I'm SOL for now.

Yeah I wasn't happy with that either.
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Re: chit, spitz, carapils and carafoam
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2016, 03:04:52 pm »
Can chit malt be used in a single infusion or does it have to be stepped if it is under-modified?