[brewinhard]

I don't see an issue using caramunich in a single, but definitely not that much.  I would reduce it to at most 4 oz.  You want just a touch of sweetness and color from it. Not much more. Definitely ditch the carafa. A roast malt should not be in a trappist single. This is a light, easy drinking table beer meant to be consumed.

[BrewBama]

I appreciate all the comments!

I did a little more research on the T-58. The best I can tell it is from Brasserie Dupont. Most folks that reviewed it on other sites either loved it (5 stars) or hated it (1 star).  Most say it is a vigorous fermenter.  Some say it adds a lot (too much?) peppery/apple-y/etc but the overbearing flavors fade into "character" with age.  In my mind, this age requirement plays to the theory that it was originally a red wine strain that has been adapted to beer fermentation. 

Exactly why I posted my thoughts = to get great feedback. You've given me a lot to consider.  Thanks folks!

[RPIScotty]

I appreciate all the comments!

I did a little more research on the T-58. The best I can tell it is from Brasserie Dupont.

It may just make a great beer but it won't be appropriate for the style.

[BrewBama]

It may just make a great beer but it won't be appropriate for the style.

I do not disagree.  I believe T-58 is a Saison yeast which is probably where I'll end up.  However, a wise brewer told me "I certainly only think that style guides should be used as a starting point, and in no way should they be a mold we craft all of our beer by." 

[majorvices]

It may just make a great beer but it won't be appropriate for the style.

I do not disagree.  I believe T-58 is a Saison yeast which is probably where I'll end up.  However, a wise brewer told me "I certainly only think that style guides should be used as a starting point, and in no way should they be a mold we craft all of our beer by."

Sorry I missed you yesterday. Next time I'll have the yeast ready and let someone know you are coming. I will be popping down there around 11 today if you want to try again.

[Iliff Ave]

In my opinion, t58 is not a saison yeast however it does attenuate pretty well. I have used it with good success in wits and have considered Belgian pale ales and even something similar to what you have in mind. I tried a saison with it once and it didn't seem to fit the bill...

[reverseapachemaster]

Personally I think T-58 is most akin to the witbier strains out there although these strains are really not that far off from saison strains in many aspects.

T-58 is fruitier if you let it ferment warmer but still not the fermentation profile that immediately makes me think of one of the trappist beers.

[adamjoyce]

Our Trappist Single is just 100% Belgian Pilsner, Saaz to 25-30 IBUs, and a healthy pitch of WY3522. No need to make it more complicated than that.

Totally agree. Mine is the same basically - all Dingemanns, Saaz or Hallertau @ 25 IBU, and either 3522 or 3787. Done.

Just about every recipe I have seen uses a crap load of white sugar in the end of boil.

[denny]

Our Trappist Single is just 100% Belgian Pilsner, Saaz to 25-30 IBUs, and a healthy pitch of WY3522. No need to make it more complicated than that.

Totally agree. Mine is the same basically - all Dingemanns, Saaz or Hallertau @ 25 IBU, and either 3522 or 3787. Done.

Just about every recipe I have seen uses a crap load of white sugar in the end of boil.

In a single?  I could see it in stronger styles, but I'm not so sure about this one.

[BrewBama]

Your partner in crime uses a pound (of turbinado) in his along with the Carafa that alarmed everyone (LOL): https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/how-to-brew/patersbier-the-lawnmower-beer-of-trappist-monks/

A lot of water under the bridge since this initial post. If I recall, I ditched Drew’s recipe and settled on base + .5 lb victory + 30 IBU(s) of Saaz.

I never did get that pitch of yeast.


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[denny]

Your partner in crime uses a pound (of turbinado) in his along with the Carafa that alarmed everyone (LOL): https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/how-to-brew/patersbier-the-lawnmower-beer-of-trappist-monks/

A lot of water under the bridge since this initial post. If I recall, I ditched Drew’s recipe and settled on base + .5 lb victory + 30 IBU(s) of Saaz.

I never did get that pitch of yeast.


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Proof that he's not always right!    Seriously, just because I don't do it, doesn't mean others can't.

[BrewBama]

Your partner in crime uses a pound (of turbinado) in his along with the Carafa that alarmed everyone (LOL): https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/how-to-brew/patersbier-the-lawnmower-beer-of-trappist-monks/

A lot of water under the bridge since this initial post. If I recall, I ditched Drew’s recipe and settled on base + .5 lb victory + 30 IBU(s) of Saaz.

I never did get that pitch of yeast.


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Proof that he's not always right!    Seriously, just because I don't do it, doesn't mean others can't.

Absolutely.


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[JonathanEL]

Dragging up old post.... but did you consider using BE-256? Don't think it was out when you originally posted.