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Offline Iliff Ave

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bitterness from flame out hop additions
« on: February 12, 2016, 10:11:33 am »
All recipe calculators provide 0 bitterness from flameout (no hopstand) additions.

If I make my flameout addition, carry my kettle into the house, put the chiller in the kettle, and begin cooling within probably 2-3 minutes is any extracted bitterness pretty much negligible? For some reason, I got in the habit of doing 5 min hop additions because I didn't trust a flameout addition as contributing 0 IBUs.
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Re: bitterness from flame out hop additions
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2016, 10:15:12 am »
Negligible. Since you use a chiller, the wort is cooling quickly enough to extract negligible bitterness from a traditional flameout addition. If you addded a few oz @ flameout and steeped for 30 mins, different story. No worries.
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Re: bitterness from flame out hop additions
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2016, 10:17:21 am »
Negligible. Since you use a chiller, the wort is cooling quickly enough to extract negligible bitterness from a traditional flameout addition. If you addded a few oz @ flameout and steeped for 30 mins, different story. No worries.

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Re: bitterness from flame out hop additions
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2016, 10:42:04 am »
Beer Alchemy allows you to set the time and temperature of hopstands and calculates the IBUs accordingly

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Re: bitterness from flame out hop additions
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2016, 10:49:14 am »
Right. I am referring specifically to flameout additions without hop stands.
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Re: bitterness from flame out hop additions
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2016, 11:00:11 am »
Negligible. Since you use a chiller, the wort is cooling quickly enough to extract negligible bitterness from a traditional flameout addition. If you addded a few oz @ flameout and steeped for 30 mins, different story. No worries.
Agreed. You may see a small bump in measured IBU's, but I doubt it would even be close to the threshold of what the palate can perceive.
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Re: bitterness from flame out hop additions
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2016, 08:34:56 am »
Negligible. Since you use a chiller, the wort is cooling quickly enough to extract negligible bitterness from a traditional flameout addition. If you addded a few oz @ flameout and steeped for 30 mins, different story. No worries.
Agreed. You may see a small bump in measured IBU's, but I doubt it would even be close to the threshold of what the palate can perceive.
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Re: bitterness from flame out hop additions
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2016, 09:24:33 pm »
If you're concerned about it an alternative might be to add your flameout addition after you get it in the house. Put it in when you put the chiller in. Try it both ways with the same beer and see if you notice a difference.

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Re: bitterness from flame out hop additions
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2016, 04:55:46 am »
Wait, you turn the flame off, pick up a kettle of near boiling wort, carry it into the house and then chill?

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Re: bitterness from flame out hop additions
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2016, 09:16:46 am »
Wait, you turn the flame off, pick up a kettle of near boiling wort, carry it into the house and then chill?

That's what I was thinking as I read this thread.
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