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Water profile for Evil Twin
« on: February 19, 2016, 06:30:28 PM »
Have Jamil's Evil twin on the schedule for next weekend. The first time I brewed this recipe, I was still on extract and therefore not concerned with my water profile so much. Jamil's write up on it talks of the malty body and hop flavor, so I am guessing I want to use Amber full for the malty body, the hops are all about flavor being just late additions. He also mentions the smooth bitterness, with no standard bittering charge. Does Amber full sound right to you guys?
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Re: Water profile for Evil Twin
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2016, 06:44:34 PM »
I would go with McDole's water or Martin's Pale Ale profile in bru'n water. They are very similar.

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Re: Water profile for Evil Twin
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2016, 06:55:45 PM »
Thanks Steve, I use Martin's Pale Ale profile for my IPA, just was not sure if it was right with the more amber color and the focus on malt for this beer. Do you think that profile since its mainly a reddish IPA/APA type of brew, rather than a true Amber Ale? Its not a brew I will likely make again in the near future (maybe 1x per year even though its been longer than that since I made it last) so no real time to "find" out what I like and tweak it regularly. That's why I was looking for thoughts.Thanks again
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Re: Water profile for Evil Twin
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2016, 06:59:47 PM »
I use one of the two profiles for anything that is relatively close to being an IPA. I do make slight adjustments if needed for pH concerns, but otherwise I love that profile. I think McDole has said he uses it for most of his beers.

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Re: Water profile for Evil Twin
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2016, 07:14:29 PM »
Frank, if you really want the malt to pop more Amber Balanced might be better than Full, which might be over the top malty for a hoppy beer. Amber bitter is a good option without the higher sulfate level of Pale Ale profile. Depends on what you're after.
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Re: Water profile for Evil Twin
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2016, 07:35:35 PM »
Thanks Jon, I guess I really need to figure out what the goal is. I know that I liked it the first time I brewed it, but the Lady of the House did not. She is anti anything IPA, so I guess I'm hoping to brew this somewhere in the middle so that we can both enjoy it. Maybe the Amber Balanced gets me there, maybe not. I think for sure that any of the dry profiles will not be to her liking until I am able to better assimilate her into the wonderful world of IPA. The main reason I am brewing this again, is that I am trying to revisit my extract brews in AG form and I did enjoy it a lot the first time
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Re: Water profile for Evil Twin
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2016, 07:46:57 PM »
Email JZ. He will share.

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Re: Water profile for Evil Twin
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2016, 07:51:23 PM »
Thanks Jon, I guess I really need to figure out what the goal is. I know that I liked it the first time I brewed it, but the Lady of the House did not. She is anti anything IPA, so I guess I'm hoping to brew this somewhere in the middle so that we can both enjoy it. Maybe the Amber Balanced gets me there, maybe not. I think for sure that any of the dry profiles will not be to her liking until I am able to better assimilate her into the wonderful world of IPA. The main reason I am brewing this again, is that I am trying to revisit my extract brews in AG form and I did enjoy it a lot the first time


Good luck. My wife isn't any closer to liking hoppy beers than she was when I met her. She likes the smell of tropical hops, takes once sip and it's like I gave her a glass of poo. 
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Re: Water profile for Evil Twin
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2016, 07:51:34 PM »
I have really been digging most of the "balanced" water profile from Martin in his software lately. The "malty" profiles are just too much for my tastes (almost cloying) and the "bitters" sometimes dry out the finish too much. Although I did use yellow bitter for my last saison and really enjoyed it, but that has a naturally dry finish anyway.

I vote to try McDoles water profile for this one as well. A quick search for Tasty's water profile will get you there.

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Re: Water profile for Evil Twin
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2016, 07:52:54 PM »
Thanks Jon, I guess I really need to figure out what the goal is. I know that I liked it the first time I brewed it, but the Lady of the House did not. She is anti anything IPA, so I guess I'm hoping to brew this somewhere in the middle so that we can both enjoy it. Maybe the Amber Balanced gets me there, maybe not. I think for sure that any of the dry profiles will not be to her liking until I am able to better assimilate her into the wonderful world of IPA. The main reason I am brewing this again, is that I am trying to revisit my extract brews in AG form and I did enjoy it a lot the first time



Good luck. My wife isn't any closer to liking hoppy beers than she was when I met her. She likes the smell of tropical hops, takes once sip and it's like I gave her a glass of poo.

That is awesome!  I tell my wife to smell and taste the beer (IPA) and then she shoves it back in my hand calling it swampwater.

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Re: Water profile for Evil Twin
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2016, 09:37:31 PM »
Thanks Jon, I guess I really need to figure out what the goal is. I know that I liked it the first time I brewed it, but the Lady of the House did not. She is anti anything IPA, so I guess I'm hoping to brew this somewhere in the middle so that we can both enjoy it. Maybe the Amber Balanced gets me there, maybe not. I think for sure that any of the dry profiles will not be to her liking until I am able to better assimilate her into the wonderful world of IPA. The main reason I am brewing this again, is that I am trying to revisit my extract brews in AG form and I did enjoy it a lot the first time
About where we are at as well. I do still try with every IPA I try, no love yet


Good luck. My wife isn't any closer to liking hoppy beers than she was when I met her. She likes the smell of tropical hops, takes once sip and it's like I gave her a glass of poo.
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Re: Water profile for Evil Twin
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2016, 09:38:45 PM »
I have really been digging most of the "balanced" water profile from Martin in his software lately. The "malty" profiles are just too much for my tastes (almost cloying) and the "bitters" sometimes dry out the finish too much. Although I did use yellow bitter for my last saison and really enjoyed it, but that has a naturally dry finish anyway.

I vote to try McDoles water profile for this one as well. A quick search for Tasty's water profile will get you there.
Found his profile and it is quite close to Bru'Nwater, still think I want to go more balanced on this one though
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Re: Water profile for Evil Twin
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2016, 09:39:33 PM »
Email JZ. He will share.
Thanks, got an addy? Contact link on MrMalty.com yields an error message
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Re: Water profile for Evil Twin
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2016, 09:45:45 PM »
I do have a gmail for him, but don't like to share without permission.

Try brewingwithstyle@thebrewingnetwork.com or info@hereticbrewing.com

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Re: Water profile for Evil Twin
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2016, 09:48:08 PM »
I do have a gmail for him, but don't like to share without permission.

Try brewingwithstyle@thebrewingnetwork.com or info@hereticbrewing.com
thanks Steve. Either of those should help me get some help
edit: email sent to the heretic address
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