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1st American Stout Recipe Help
« on: February 23, 2016, 04:19:10 PM »
So I've never made any stouts before and I am not a big drinker of stouts.  I am one of those people that all I've ever had are thick stouts that I dont find very drinkable (I know thats a wrong thing to think but I havent had one that didn't make me think that).  On this forum, someone suggested a dry stout but after looking at the BJCP guidelines for an american stout, I thought I would like that more.  I have friends and family that would like a stout and will be paying me back for the ingredients since they know I do not really drink them.    I was thinking of an American Stout something like an American Vanilla Stout? Think that's too much?.  Any help with a recipe would be great.  On another part of this forum, user Whiskers suggested something like this for a dry stout. 

Steeping Grains
8oz roasted barley
8oz chocolate malt
4oz crystal 80
4oz black patent

Extract - Not sure
Hops - Not sure
Yeast - not sure

Thanks in advance for the help.  Oh, I am a partial Mash brewer.

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Re: 1st American Stout Recipe Help
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2016, 03:19:52 PM »
Hops I m thinking Cascade and Centennial.
any help would be appreciated

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Re: 1st American Stout Recipe Help
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2016, 03:34:22 PM »
I think that's a great start to a recipe -- vanilla and all!  I don't have brewing software with me (at work) but off the top of my head I think those types and amounts of specialty grains seem pretty good.  Assuming 5 gallon batch size, probably need around 6 pounds of extract to go with it -- any type is fine but "light" would be the standard since you're adding all your own specialty grains anyway.

Cascade and Cent are great hops as well.  You might want to bitter to around 40-50 IBUs to start out.  As a swag, I think you'll need roughly 1.5 to 2 oz Cascade for bittering (boil for 45 to 60 minutes), then charge with another 1.5 to 2 oz Centennial in the last 5 minutes of the boil for flavor and aroma, something like that.

Yeast doesn't matter a whole lot.  US-05/001/1056 would be the standard, but use anything you think you might like or have on hand, it really isn't a big player here.

Add your vanilla on bottling/kegging day.  Get some good quality vanilla extract (from Mexico or Caribbean seems to be good a lot of times) or try using a couple real vanilla beans soaked in a little vodka for a few days just before bottling/kegging, then just add the flavored vodka to the finished beer.  Don't add any to the boil, it would just be a waste I think.

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Re: 1st American Stout Recipe Help
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2016, 03:38:42 PM »
thanks very much for the info! I appreciate it.  I dont want to use the Briess Traditional Dark Extract?  So Id be good with 3.3 liquid Golden Light extract and 3 lbs of pale malt extract or stick to both being light? 

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Re: 1st American Stout Recipe Help
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2016, 03:43:42 PM »
Yes, absolutely, the light extracts will work just fine for this recipe.
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Re: 1st American Stout Recipe Help
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2016, 03:46:41 PM »
thanks, im going to order the ingredients today and brew asap.  my fermenters are free after friday.  thanks again

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Re: 1st American Stout Recipe Help
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2016, 03:48:49 PM »
American stout is pretty roasty and fairly strong with fairly high IBU, so (without having software here) I'd say to use :

Steeping - 155F for 30 mins
12 oz roasted barley
8 oz chocolate malt
8 oz crystal 60L

Do you use software?  If you do, add these grains into software first, then add enough extract to hit around 1.068 OG.

Hops - Around 63 IBU Warrior for 60 mins
                         5 IBU Centennial for 5 minutes
                         1 oz Cascade at flameout

Yeast - WY 1450 if you can get it - it's great for porter and stout. If not, 1056 works fine.
       
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Re: 1st American Stout Recipe Help
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2016, 03:54:47 PM »
how much vanilla extract would you use in the bottling bucket?

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Re: 1st American Stout Recipe Help
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2016, 03:55:12 PM »
American stout is pretty roasty and fairly strong with fairly high IBU, so (without having software here) I'd say to use :

Steeping - 155F for 30 mins
12 oz roasted barley
8 oz chocolate malt
8 oz crystal 60L

Do you use software?  If you do, add these grains into software first, then add enough extract to hit around 1.068 OG.

Hops - Around 63 IBU Warrior for 60 mins
                         5 IBU Centennial for 5 minutes
                         1 oz Cascade at flameout

Yeast - WY 1450 if you can get it - it's great for porter and stout. If not, 1056 works fine.
       

thanks for the info!

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Re: 1st American Stout Recipe Help
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2016, 04:06:30 PM »
how much vanilla extract would you use in the bottling bucket?

Start with about 2 teaspoons, then mix and taste.  If you need more, add it about one teaspoon at a time until it tastes good.  Probably won't need more than 3 or 4 teaspoons in 5 gallons but it's totally up to your own sense of taste.
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Re: 1st American Stout Recipe Help
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2016, 04:17:21 PM »
will the vanilla extract affect the amount of priming sugar I'd use in the bottling bucket? 

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Re: 1st American Stout Recipe Help
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2016, 04:21:16 PM »
No, not at all.
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Re: 1st American Stout Recipe Help
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2016, 04:26:21 PM »
ok thanks

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Re: 1st American Stout Recipe Help
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2016, 05:03:24 PM »
Vanilla extract often contains sugar but it should contain so little sugar for the amount you are adding that it will be an inconsequential amount of sugar.
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Re: 1st American Stout Recipe Help
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2016, 06:28:35 PM »
Vanilla extract often contains sugar but it should contain so little sugar for the amount you are adding that it will be an inconsequential amount of sugar.

It does?  Not from what I have seen.
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