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Offline mpietropaoli

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Higher End Glassware Cautionary Tale
« on: February 23, 2016, 10:21:12 am »
I can't tell whether this was from abrasives (typically I either use salt or baking powder) or Scotch-Brite pads, but every 6 months or so, I would do an oxyclean soak and scrub on my Spigleau glasses (use the tulips for just about everything).  After most uses I will just spray with vinegar solution, then heavy rinse with crazy hot water, and maybe a paper towel rub. 

After spending months trying to figure out why head on my beers would quickly dissipate, I looked closer at the glasses, and noticed pretty visible scratches in the direction of my scrubbing.  Likely the cause of the head falling quickly. 

Upon reading this, I can't imagine that either salt or baking powder is harder than glass, so it must be the pads. 
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Re: Higher End Glassware Cautionary Tale
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2016, 10:40:36 am »
Thanks for the heads up. I just purchased a pair of the IPA glasses. I use those sponge pads to clean a lot of dishes so it is good to know to avoid them on the Spiegelaus.
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Re: Higher End Glassware Cautionary Tale
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2016, 10:44:54 am »
Are you using the blue or green pads? The blue pads shouldn't hurt the actual glass, printing maybe.

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Re: Higher End Glassware Cautionary Tale
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2016, 11:04:55 am »
I've never needed to use anything remotely abrasive on glass. Terry cloth or the soft side of the sponge always work.
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Re: Higher End Glassware Cautionary Tale
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2016, 11:51:11 am »
I've never needed to use anything remotely abrasive on glass. Terry cloth or the soft side of the sponge always work.

^ This ^  Rinse the glasses right after use and there's no reason to use anything abrasive.

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Re: Higher End Glassware Cautionary Tale
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2016, 11:13:37 am »
Green pads

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Re: Higher End Glassware Cautionary Tale
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2016, 11:32:02 am »
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Yeah, those are the super abrasive ones. Throw them in the garage, that's about all they're good for.
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Re: Higher End Glassware Cautionary Tale
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2016, 11:34:34 am »

Green pads

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Yeah, those are the super abrasive ones. Throw them in the garage, that's about all they're good for.
I use green on stainless. I think I will avoid them on my new etched kettle.

Get the blue sponges or any other no scratch pads.

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Re: Higher End Glassware Cautionary Tale
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2016, 11:36:10 am »
I have scratches on my Wusthof chefs knife because of those stupid green sponges. I about lit the sponges on fire when I figured it out.
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Re: Higher End Glassware Cautionary Tale
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2016, 11:48:33 am »

Green pads

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Yeah, those are the super abrasive ones. Throw them in the garage, that's about all they're good for.
I use green on stainless. I think I will avoid them on my new etched kettle.

Get the blue sponges or any other no scratch pads.

Blue works the best for me on my stainless kettle for avoiding scratches.

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Re: Higher End Glassware Cautionary Tale
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2016, 03:02:43 pm »
FWIW, I bought this http://www.amazon.com/Rubbermaid-Comfort-Bottle-Brush-FG6C1900/dp/B000S6LRH6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1456351230&sr=8-2&keywords=glass+brush at the grocery store a few months ago.

Small drop of Mrs. Meyers soap, hot hot water, several good swirls with said brush and a good hot rinse before the drying rack. 

sponges and the green scotch pads have never done me a bit of justice.  formerly used terry cloths and still do if I have one in use already - they work about the same.

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Re: Higher End Glassware Cautionary Tale
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2016, 03:21:16 pm »
FWIW, I bought this http://www.amazon.com/Rubbermaid-Comfort-Bottle-Brush-FG6C1900/dp/B000S6LRH6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1456351230&sr=8-2&keywords=glass+brush at the grocery store a few months ago.

Small drop of Mrs. Meyers soap, hot hot water, several good swirls with said brush and a good hot rinse before the drying rack. 

sponges and the green scotch pads have never done me a bit of justice.  formerly used terry cloths and still do if I have one in use already - they work about the same.
Which Mrs. Meyers soap?  Or does it not matter?  Also, why Mrs. Meyers?  Does it have less/no surfactant than ordinary dish soap?  Surfactant reduces water spots on glassware but I think it kills beer head.
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Re: Higher End Glassware Cautionary Tale
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2016, 03:24:39 pm »
Yeah I believe it has less or no surfactants.  Rinse hot and you'll have no problem.  If you've seen my pics of recent beers you can see I don't have any problems with head retention.  Been using this soap for 8-10 years.
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Re: Higher End Glassware Cautionary Tale
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2016, 05:42:30 pm »
My only use for green scrubbies in the kitchen is to sand the cuts out of wooden cutting boards.

I wash my good beer glasses with a soft bristle brush. "Everyday" glasses just get put in the dishwasher, and they still lace very nicely.
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Re: Higher End Glassware Cautionary Tale
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2016, 06:53:07 pm »
Blue scrubbies, bamboo scrubbies, and/or a bottle brush is all I use on my beer glasses, or anything else for that matter.
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