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Offline flbrewer

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Mild Advice
« on: March 04, 2016, 05:14:24 am »
I have found a really great local Mild beer and got some information from the owner/brewmaster about it. Of course, specific percentages aren't included! He did mention this is the order of the grist bill in descending order. Any advice on the below bill would be appreciated. The beer is 4.9% FWIW.

-Two Row (I'm subbing Marris Otter here)
-Munich
-English 45
-Aromatic
-Brown
-Chocolate
-Black Patent

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Re: Mild Advice
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2016, 11:29:51 am »
At 4.9 ABV, it's pretty big for a mild. Which probably explains why you like it so much - American brewers just don't seem to get mild right.

All that said, it's probably a great brown ale.
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Re: Mild Advice
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2016, 11:39:04 am »
Unless MO is all you have on hand I'd use regular old North American Two Row. That's why he has the munich in there. I use tworow and munich as a MO alternative.

which means your two row and munich should be at around 2:1 or 3:1.

medium crystal is going to be around 8-10%

Aromatic and Brown malt < 5%
Chocolate and black patent is a color adjust, <2% each.

that's what I'd start at and then play around.

At 4.9 ABV, it's pretty big for a mild. Which probably explains why you like it so much - American brewers just don't seem to get mild right.

All that said, it's probably a great brown ale.

that may be true with modern milds but historically it was a descriptor of a young beer vs. and aged (stale) beer. There were 8-10% abv milds back in the 19th and early 20th century.
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Re: Mild Advice
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2016, 11:45:37 am »
At 4.9 ABV, it's pretty big for a mild. Which probably explains why you like it so much - American brewers just don't seem to get mild right.

All that said, it's probably a great brown ale.

I have had milds over 5% ABV in Nottingham. The wife called those imperial milds.
One was Hardy and Hansons Cursed Galleon at 5.5%.

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Re: Mild Advice
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2016, 04:31:39 pm »
Unless MO is all you have on hand I'd use regular old North American Two Row. That's why he has the munich in there. I use tworow and munich as a MO alternative.

which means your two row and munich should be at around 2:1 or 3:1.

medium crystal is going to be around 8-10%

Aromatic and Brown malt < 5%
Chocolate and black patent is a color adjust, <2% each.

that's what I'd start at and then play around.

So just to confirm what you're thinking...
-Two row 50%
-Munich 25%
   2:1 ratio
-Medium crystal 8%
-Aromatic 5%
-Brown malt 5%
-Chocolate 2%
 Black patent 2%

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Re: Mild Advice
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2016, 05:00:28 pm »
Unless MO is all you have on hand I'd use regular old North American Two Row. That's why he has the munich in there. I use tworow and munich as a MO alternative.

which means your two row and munich should be at around 2:1 or 3:1.

medium crystal is going to be around 8-10%

Aromatic and Brown malt < 5%
Chocolate and black patent is a color adjust, <2% each.

that's what I'd start at and then play around.

So just to confirm what you're thinking...
-Two row 50%
-Munich 25%
   2:1 ratio
-Medium crystal 8%
-Aromatic 5%
-Brown malt 5%
-Chocolate 2%
 Black patent 2%

it's a place to start. although I think that only adds up to 97% but I'm sure you can make the difference up somewhere. just call it 53% two row.
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Re: Mild Advice
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2016, 05:03:42 pm »

Unless MO is all you have on hand I'd use regular old North American Two Row. That's why he has the munich in there. I use tworow and munich as a MO alternative.

which means your two row and munich should be at around 2:1 or 3:1.

medium crystal is going to be around 8-10%

Aromatic and Brown malt < 5%
Chocolate and black patent is a color adjust, <2% each.

that's what I'd start at and then play around.

So just to confirm what you're thinking...
-Two row 50%
-Munich 25%
   2:1 ratio
-Medium crystal 8%
-Aromatic 5%
-Brown malt 5%
-Chocolate 2%
 Black patent 2%

it's a place to start. although I think that only adds up to 97% but I'm sure you can make the difference up somewhere. just call it 53% two row.

You said 2:1 or 3:1. Would 3:1 make for a much different beer?

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Re: Mild Advice
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2016, 05:18:50 pm »

Unless MO is all you have on hand I'd use regular old North American Two Row. That's why he has the munich in there. I use tworow and munich as a MO alternative.

which means your two row and munich should be at around 2:1 or 3:1.

medium crystal is going to be around 8-10%

Aromatic and Brown malt < 5%
Chocolate and black patent is a color adjust, <2% each.

that's what I'd start at and then play around.

So just to confirm what you're thinking...
-Two row 50%
-Munich 25%
   2:1 ratio
-Medium crystal 8%
-Aromatic 5%
-Brown malt 5%
-Chocolate 2%
 Black patent 2%

it's a place to start. although I think that only adds up to 97% but I'm sure you can make the difference up somewhere. just call it 53% two row.

You said 2:1 or 3:1. Would 3:1 make for a much different beer?
It would have leads of the toasted bread crust flavor that the Munich brings. Are you using light Munich (6srm) or the dark (10srm)? If the light I would go 2:1 for sure. The dark Munich had more flavor so 3:1 might work better.

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