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« on: March 04, 2016, 06:46:56 PM »
I bought some LD Carlson 'yeast nutrient' from Yakima Valley that says 'add one tsp per gallon of must'. I saw a thread where someone stated that they use 1/2 tsp of Wyeast's product for 5 gallons of beer. Should I really be adding over 5 teaspoons per batch and does it matter that it seems that this is for wine?
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Re: yeast nutrient amount
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2016, 06:52:33 PM »
I bought some LD Carlson 'yeast nutrient' from Yakima Valley that says 'add one tsp per gallon of must'. I saw a thread where someone stated that they use 1/2 tsp of Wyeast's product for 5 gallons of beer. Should I really be adding over 5 teaspoons per batch and does it matter that it seems that this is for wine?

sounds like their wine nutrient??  for wyeast beer nutrient, it's is 1/2 teaspoon per 5-gal...that's what I use.
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Re: yeast nutrient amount
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2016, 06:57:35 PM »
I bought some LD Carlson 'yeast nutrient' from Yakima Valley that says 'add one tsp per gallon of must'. I saw a thread where someone stated that they use 1/2 tsp of Wyeast's product for 5 gallons of beer. Should I really be adding over 5 teaspoons per batch and does it matter that it seems that this is for wine?

sounds like their wine nutrient??  for wyeast beer nutrient, it's is 1/2 teaspoon per 5-gal...that's what I use.

Well that's a bummer and kind of confusing. I don't think YVH sells any wine making ingredients...
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Re: yeast nutrient amount
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2016, 07:00:13 PM »
Found this on Northern Brewer: "Yeast Nutrient is a mixture of diammonium phosphate and food-grade urea that nourishes yeast, ensuring that it remains healthy throughout fermentation. One teaspoon per gallon recommended for wine, mead, and cider."  >:(
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Re: yeast nutrient amount
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2016, 07:00:40 PM »
Malt has most or all of the nutrients yeast needs. Must and mead don't so need a lot more nutrients to be added.
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Re: yeast nutrient amount
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2016, 07:03:08 PM »
Found this on Northern Brewer: "Yeast Nutrient is a mixture of diammonium phosphate and food-grade urea that nourishes yeast, ensuring that it remains healthy throughout fermentation. One teaspoon per gallon recommended for wine, mead, and cider."  >:(

my LHBS caries LD carlson also. I still have a bag of what you bought, so dont feel bad   ::)

I just felt more confident in the wyeast product, and use both their beer and wine yeast nutrient.
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Re: yeast nutrient amount
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2016, 07:22:17 PM »
Ah yes, I have that too, and it's confusingly also called "yeast nutrient". A blend of diammonium phosphate and ammonium sulphate. When you make mead you need that PLUS the regular yeast nutrient that is also used for beer. I think this has no purpose in beer making.
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Re: yeast nutrient amount
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2016, 07:24:11 PM »
A buddy uses the LD stuff and I was confused when I saw him dumping multiple scoops into a batch. He's beers are fine, but still seemed like a lot. I use wyeast.

My new LHBS only sells the whitelabs stuff that looks similar to wyeast. It's $8 a jar! I used to pay $1.50 for wyeast

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Re: yeast nutrient amount
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2016, 07:28:01 PM »
I love YVH but I may need to take this up with them. Maybe convince them to rethink this product. It is kind of misleading to carry all beer brewing products but carry wine/mead yeast nutrient without designating it as such. I guess I made an incorrect assumption so I am at fault as well. It is a very minor thing but it still bugs me...
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Re: yeast nutrient amount
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2016, 08:27:34 PM »
My LHBS was out of Wyeast once so I bought a bag of this stuff. I wasn't comfortable using that much, so I backed off the amount to near the Wyeast rate. I didn't notice any negatives. I'd rather use Wyeast though, obviously.
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Re: yeast nutrient amount
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2016, 08:37:31 PM »
My LHBS was out of Wyeast once so I bought a bag of this stuff. I wasn't comfortable using that much, so I backed off the amount to near the Wyeast rate. I didn't notice any negatives. I'd rather use Wyeast though, obviously.

IIRC mine had much more of the white crystals stuff mixed with the tan...very different looking the wyeast so I decided against it. still sitting around but likely just chucking it when I remember.
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Re: yeast nutrient amount
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2016, 08:46:43 PM »
My LHBS was out of Wyeast once so I bought a bag of this stuff. I wasn't comfortable using that much, so I backed off the amount to near the Wyeast rate. I didn't notice any negatives. I'd rather use Wyeast though, obviously.

IIRC mine had much more of the white crystals stuff mixed with the tan...very different looking the wyeast so I decided against it. still sitting around but likely just chucking it when I remember.


Yeah, I used it once and tossed it after. No sub for Wyeast.
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Re: yeast nutrient amount
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2016, 08:49:50 PM »
My LHBS was out of Wyeast once so I bought a bag of this stuff. I wasn't comfortable using that much, so I backed off the amount to near the Wyeast rate. I didn't notice any negatives. I'd rather use Wyeast though, obviously.

IIRC mine had much more of the white crystals stuff mixed with the tan...very different looking the wyeast so I decided against it. still sitting around but likely just chucking it when I remember.

The stuff I got pretty much looks like crack with no tan impurities  ;)

Here is the extensive reply from LD Carlson after sending an email inquiry:
"The yeast nutrient can be used in beer wort"

I may just throw some in until I get around to getting some Wyeast product. I am not putting in 6 tsp though...

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Re: yeast nutrient amount
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2016, 09:37:30 PM »
At what stage of the boil should it be added?

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Re: yeast nutrient amount
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2016, 10:00:59 PM »
At what stage of the boil should it be added?


Add it 5-10 minutes before the end of the boil.
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