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Brewer's Friend for Windows...a boil off bust?
« on: March 09, 2016, 11:27:33 AM »
Just downloaded and looked over the BF beta application for Windows and it has a nice look, standalone calculators similar to ProMash, editable databases like ProMash.........but............

Boil off is inputted as a %.

Maybe they are taking comments. I'll have to check. Otherwise it's a nice application and one I would use were it not for the % boil off.


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Re: Brewer's Friend for Windows...a boil off bust?
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2016, 02:46:09 PM »
The developers have been quite responsive when it comes to their web app, so I'm sure they would be for the Windows app as well. Try their forums, the devs post there regularly.

Personally, I have yet to try the Windows or Android apps because the web interface is the main selling point of their software for me.
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Re: Brewer's Friend for Windows...a boil off bust?
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2016, 03:04:03 PM »
Yup. Posted there this morning.

It's a really nice interface, not quite up to the level of completeness of say a ProMash, but easy to use, all their standalone calculators, etc.

I'm going to try it on my next brew if they can change the boil off input.


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Re: Brewer's Friend for Windows...a boil off bust?
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2016, 06:22:34 PM »
The software is actually kind of nice. Real simple. Much of the same content as a ProMash.

The workaround for the % based boil off is to just to calculate your % boil off based on your standard batch size and your measured gal/hr boil off.

Not ideal if you boil different size batches but hey....

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Re: Brewer's Friend for Windows...a boil off bust?
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2016, 09:04:28 PM »
I change my batch volumes a lot.  Those of us who do that and who use old software with %/hour boiloff rates just have to memorize the percentages for each size.  To keep it easy, I know that for me, my boiloff percentages jump around approximately in multiples of 4.  For 5 gallons, I just have to remember boiloff rate is around 16%.  For 2.5-3 gallons, it's about 24%.  For 2 gallons, 28%.  And for my smallest batch size of 1.7 gallons, it's 32%.  This isn't exact but gets me close enough, and the numbers are easier for me to remember this way.

I'm starting to think 2 gallons might become my new normal.  1.7 gallons wasn't quite cutting it.  But I'm not sure yet.  So I've actually been bouncing back and forth between 1.7 and 2 gallons.  If I start brewing more often again then I'll need to adjust down to 1.7 gallons.  But anyway, I digress.
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Re: Brewer's Friend for Windows...a boil off bust?
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2016, 09:12:19 PM »
The software is actually kind of nice. Real simple. Much of the same content as a ProMash.

The workaround for the % based boil off is to just to calculate your % boil off based on your standard batch size and your measured gal/hr boil off.

Not ideal if you boil different size batches but hey....

You keep saying it's a lot like Promash. Does it give you a reason to switch?
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Brewer's Friend for Windows...a boil off bust?
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2016, 09:23:07 PM »
The software is actually kind of nice. Real simple. Much of the same content as a ProMash.

The workaround for the % based boil off is to just to calculate your % boil off based on your standard batch size and your measured gal/hr boil off.

Not ideal if you boil different size batches but hey....

You keep saying it's a lot like Promash. Does it give you a reason to switch?

Not at the moment. It does however present a nice alternative for people who dig Brewers Friend but don't have an Internet connection available all the time. All of their standalone calcs are in there too.

I really like ProMash but am on a learning curve right now.

Have you checked it out at all Denny?
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Re: Brewer's Friend for Windows...a boil off bust?
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2016, 04:19:35 PM »
The software is actually kind of nice. Real simple. Much of the same content as a ProMash.

The workaround for the % based boil off is to just to calculate your % boil off based on your standard batch size and your measured gal/hr boil off.

Not ideal if you boil different size batches but hey....

You keep saying it's a lot like Promash. Does it give you a reason to switch?

Not at the moment. It does however present a nice alternative for people who dig Brewers Friend but don't have an Internet connection available all the time. All of their standalone calcs are in there too.

I really like ProMash but am on a learning curve right now.

Have you checked it out at all Denny?

Checked out the web based one a year or two ago, but didn't see a reason to switch.
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Re: Brewer's Friend for Windows...a boil off bust?
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2016, 04:23:46 PM »

The software is actually kind of nice. Real simple. Much of the same content as a ProMash.

The workaround for the % based boil off is to just to calculate your % boil off based on your standard batch size and your measured gal/hr boil off.

Not ideal if you boil different size batches but hey....

You keep saying it's a lot like Promash. Does it give you a reason to switch?

Not at the moment. It does however present a nice alternative for people who dig Brewers Friend but don't have an Internet connection available all the time. All of their standalone calcs are in there too.

I really like ProMash but am on a learning curve right now.

Have you checked it out at all Denny?

Checked out the web based one a year or two ago, but didn't see a reason to switch.

I'm getting quite comfortable with ProMash and for the time being, I am getting enough out of it to stay tied to the desktop.

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Re: Brewer's Friend for Windows...a boil off bust?
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2016, 07:13:49 PM »
Brewers Friend for Windows started life as BrewMate a few years ago. I guess BF bought the software and rebranded it so they could offer a standalone, offline product; but I don't think much (if anything at all) changed with the rebranding.  I guess this is just a "fun fact" type post but interesting to know the lineage. It's nice that they kept the pricepoint the same ;)

Also, I am fairly condifent that BF is also owned by the same people as HBT (as well as many other forums and websites)

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Re: Brewer's Friend for Windows...a boil off bust?
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2016, 05:30:37 PM »
I actually had no idea they had a windows app, I'll have to download it and take a look.

ATM I'm still using BS2, but am hoping I can start contributing to brewtarget, now that I joined their team, and help improve their offering in terms of completeness and ease of use.

Boil off % is one of the things that kills me too. It's just a sign of out of date information and makes me not want to trust anything.

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Re: Brewer's Friend for Windows...a boil off bust?
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2016, 05:32:25 PM »

I actually had no idea they had a windows app, I'll have to download it and take a look.

ATM I'm still using BS2, but am hoping I can start contributing to brewtarget, now that I joined their team, and help improve their offering in terms of completeness and ease of use.

Boil off % is one of the things that kills me too. It's just a sign of out of date information and makes me not want to trust anything.

Mark,

I actually just deleted it yesterday. It had a pretty nice interface but lacked many of the features they advertised because it's still in beta form.

I'm sticking with ProMash.