[hopfenundmalz]

I see the Zum Uerige recipe mentioned a lot in the search but I have yet to come across THE recipe...can someone point me to that?

Edit*...Or at least which version is best.

    The recipe comes from Dr. Frank Hebmuller, brewmaster at Uerige.  Here's something I wrote on B&V years ago....

    Water can be relatively hard with a high carbonate level.  Malt is based on well modified pils, with a bit of caramel malt and a bit of "chocolate roasted wheat malt".  Mash schedule has rests at 125, 144, 158, and 169 (mashout). Boil time is 60-70 min. Mittelfruh, Perle, or Spalt are the preferred hops. Aroma hop addition is about 25% of the total hop amount. Add aroma hops no earlier than 20 min. before flameout. OG is 1.044-1.052. Primary between 59-68F. Secondary at 50F. Then condition at 32F for 14 days. FG should be 1.008-1.014. 4.3-5.5% ABV Here's the recipe he gives for 5 gal. ....

    5.9 lb. Pils malt
    .15 lb. Caramel malt (e.g. Weyermann Caramunich)
    1.34 oz. Chocolate Roasted malt (e.g. weyermann Carafa Spezial Type 1)
    .7 oz. Hallertau Mittlefruh - 6.5% - 60 min.
    .46 oz. Perele - 7.5% - 60 min.
    1.11 oz. Spalt - 5% - 20 min.

Did he recommend a specific yeast?

Wyeast 1007 is the Uerige yeast.

[denny]

The Zum Uerige yeast, of course!  WY1007.

[chumley]

Denny tweaked that recipe.  It is actually 1.34 oz. Chocolate Roasted wheat malt.

I'm not one to stand by and let revisionist posts go unchallenged. 

[Steve Ruch]

The Zum Uerige yeast, of course!  WY1007.

Any idea how 1007 compares to the K-97?

[hopfenundmalz]

The Zum Uerige yeast, of course!  WY1007.

Any idea how 1007 compares to the K-97?

K-97 sounds similar. I have never used it, so if someone has and says no, listen to them.

[dmtaylor]

K-97 sounds similar. I have never used it, so if someone has and says no, listen to them.

From what I've read, they are identical, one and the same.  However I've not tried the K-97 yet to know for sure.

[Iliff Ave]

K-97 sounds similar. I have never used it, so if someone has and says no, listen to them.

From what I've read, they are identical, one and the same.  However I've not tried the K-97 yet to know for sure.

This is my impression as well. I have used K97 but not 1007 so I have the opposite problem.

[denny]

Denny tweaked that recipe.  It is actually 1.34 oz. Chocolate Roasted wheat malt.

I'm not one to stand by and let revisionist posts go unchallenged. 

Good on ya, chumley!

[denny]

K-97 sounds similar. I have never used it, so if someone has and says no, listen to them.

From what I've read, they are identical, one and the same.  However I've not tried the K-97 yet to know for sure.

I believe they likely have the same origin, but like any 2 yeasts, there are differences...or at least that's what I found in my single use of K97.  K97 seemed just a bit fruitier and not as dry as 1007.

[Steve Ruch]

I believe they likely have the same origin, but like any 2 yeasts, there are differences...or at least that's what I found in my single use of K97.  K97 seemed just a bit fruitier and not as dry as 1007.

I brewed an alt back on Thursday using it. Sometime next week I'll take a gravity reading and give it a taste, although it's been a really long time since I brewed this recipe with the 1007 and even at the best of times I'm not a great note taker so I'll be relying on only memory for comparison.

[chumley]

This thread has inspired me to brew an alt this morning.  That, and the fact that a guy in the local club gave me a slurry of WY1007.   

Sadly lacking in Spalter hops and Caramunich, this is what I came up with my current inventory

10 gallons, OG ~1.048

20 lbs. Avangard pils
1 lb. Avangard munich
1 lb. Weyermann CaraRed
5 oz. Weyerman chocolate wheat

Mash-in at 154°F for 60 min

2 oz. Halleratuer Mittelfrueh FWH
1 oz. Perle 60 min
0.5 oz. Northern Brewer 60 min
2 oz. Tettnanger 20 min.

Edited because I am a numbskull.

[Pinski]

This thread has inspired me to brew an alt this morning.  That, and the fact that a guy in the local club gave me a slurry of WY1007.   

Sadly lacking in Spalter hops and Caramunich, this is what I came up with my current inventory

10 gallons, OG ~1.048

20 lbs. Avangard pils
1 lb. Avangard munich
1 lb. Weyermann Caramunich
5 oz. Weyerman chocolate wheat

Mash-in at 154°F for 60 min

2 oz. Halleratuer Mittelfrueh FWH
1 oz. Perle 60 min
0.5 oz. Northern Brewer 60 min
2 oz. Tettnanger 20 min.

Looks tasty to me. The NB is an interesting choice.

[Steve Ruch]

I believe they likely have the same origin, but like any 2 yeasts, there are differences...or at least that's what I found in my single use of K97.  K97 seemed just a bit fruitier and not as dry as 1007.

I brewed an alt back on Thursday using it. Sometime next week I'll take a gravity reading and give it a taste, although it's been a really long time since I brewed this recipe with the 1007 and even at the best of times I'm not a great note taker so I'll be relying on only memory for comparison.

My alt went from 1.046 to 1.010 and tastes pretty good already after 12 days.