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Re: Is it bad to lager in kegs?
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2016, 11:26:26 am »
An old friend who now no longer homebrews always lagered in kegs and did so with them lying horizontally. His lagers were tremendous and he took many BOS ribbons as a result. His thinking was the distance was less to the surface of the beer and so it lagered faster and cleaner. I have no idea if he was right or not, but I could never argue with his results!

Sounds like homebrewer BS.

Particles drop at a certain rate, so many cm/day. But a corny is not that tall so things end up falling out pretty fast compared to a big giant commercial conical. At a homebrew scale it is not much of an issue. I will try it someday just to say I have.

I have tried it. I used to lager by laying kegs horizontally on the compressor hump of my serving fridge, behind the serving kegs.  Made no difference whatsoever.
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Re: Is it bad to lager in kegs?
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2016, 11:30:45 am »
Doesn't the sediment get into the beer when stood vertical to serve?
My thoughts as well...
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Re: Is it bad to lager in kegs?
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2016, 11:36:30 am »
An old friend who now no longer homebrews always lagered in kegs and did so with them lying horizontally. His lagers were tremendous and he took many BOS ribbons as a result. His thinking was the distance was less to the surface of the beer and so it lagered faster and cleaner. I have no idea if he was right or not, but I could never argue with his results!

Sounds like homebrewer BS.

Particles drop at a certain rate, so many cm/day. But a corny is not that tall so things end up falling out pretty fast compared to a big giant commercial conical. At a homebrew scale it is not much of an issue. I will try it someday just to say I have.

I have tried it. I used to lager by laying kegs horizontally on the compressor hump of my serving fridge, behind the serving kegs.  Made no difference whatsoever.

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Re: Is it bad to lager in kegs?
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2016, 05:29:14 pm »
So do you lager guys do a Diacetyl rest with your lagers, this seems to be a nice time to then bottle or keg the beer and then bring it down to lager temps in the bottles or kegs.
 If using a keg would you need bubbler because it will be the same as a secondary carboy?

 (primary at 50 until it is almost fermented then bring to 67 F or so for a diacetyl rest. Then into Bottling bucket to bottle at room temp for 2 weeks / or keg and lower temps to lager temperatures.)

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Re: Is it bad to lager in kegs?
« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2016, 05:59:00 pm »
So do you lager guys do a Diacetyl rest with your lagers, this seems to be a nice time to then bottle or keg the beer and then bring it down to lager temps in the bottles or kegs.
 If using a keg would you need bubbler because it will be the same as a secondary carboy?

 (primary at 50 until it is almost fermented then bring to 67 F or so for a diacetyl rest. Then into Bottling bucket to bottle at room temp for 2 weeks / or keg and lower temps to lager temperatures.)

Though I do not have a lot of lager experience, I do a diacetyl rest in the fermenter, then keg, purge the headspace with CO2, cold lager at 34*F, fine, then carb.  I do not install an airlock in the keg while lagering because I've heard the transition from ferm temps to lager temps will suck the liquid into the keg.
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Re: Is it bad to lager in kegs?
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2016, 10:03:49 am »
I almost never need a d rest.  I decide on a beer by beer basis by tasting the gravity samples.
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Re: Is it bad to lager in kegs?
« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2016, 07:46:51 pm »
I try to raise all my beers a few degrees at the tail end of fermentation, regardless of whether they are ales or lagers. I always do a d-check before starting the lagering process, though, and will give it more time before racking to keg and lagering if I detect any diacetyl.
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Re: Is it bad to lager in kegs?
« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2016, 01:33:08 pm »
if lagering in kegs is wrong, then I don't want to be right.


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