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Offline kramerog

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Tuesday Beer Trivia: More Hops
« on: April 06, 2016, 09:46:03 am »
Question 3 does not provide the right answer.  Assuming that nothing is lost in drying hops other than water, for the water percentages provide in the explanation of the answer, the correct answer is 4.5.  In drying my homegrown hops, the weight loss is 75 - 80%.

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Re: Tuesday Beer Trivia: More Hops
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2016, 09:47:49 am »
Question 3 does not provide the right answer.  Assuming that nothing is lost in drying hops other than water, for the water percentages provide in the explanation of the answer, the correct answer is 4.5.  In drying my homegrown hops, the weight loss is 75 - 80%.

That's the only one I got wrong and wondered about that.  The 'correct' answer seems oddly high.

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Re: Tuesday Beer Trivia: More Hops
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2016, 09:55:14 am »
Hey FaradayUncaged and Kramerog-

Guy who made this trivia quiz, here! Here is where I pulled the info from that I based this question off of:

For the Love of Hops by Stan Hieronymus
Page 266, paragraph 1:
"The first time Steve Dresler brewed a wet hop beer at Sierra Nevada he added five to six times the weight in wet hops that he would have were the hops dry. Soon he increased to that between seven to eight times the dry weight. The simple explanation is that wet hops contain about 80 percent water, while dried cones have about 10 percent"

I actually went into this question thinking it was around 5 times, so I was a bit surprised too, but Stan knows a thing or two so I took his word for it  :)

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Re: Tuesday Beer Trivia: More Hops
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2016, 10:21:39 am »
Hey FaradayUncaged and Kramerog-

Guy who made this trivia quiz, here! Here is where I pulled the info from that I based this question off of:

For the Love of Hops by Stan Hieronymus
Page 266, paragraph 1:
"The first time Steve Dresler brewed a wet hop beer at Sierra Nevada he added five to six times the weight in wet hops that he would have were the hops dry. Soon he increased to that between seven to eight times the dry weight. The simple explanation is that wet hops contain about 80 percent water, while dried cones have about 10 percent"

I actually went into this question thinking it was around 5 times, so I was a bit surprised too, but Stan knows a thing or two so I took his word for it  :)

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First of all I loved the quiz!

That's definitely interesting information but the math doesn't work.

If the 80% for wet and 10% for dry are to be trusted:
.2X (for wet) = .9Y(for dry)
Dry = 4.5x Wet

Having said that, I'll buy the 7-8x to get the same effect (and I'll keep this in mind for my next brew day), but the water explanation doesn't quite work unless I'm missing another factor.  AA% different for the "meat" of the hops perhaps?
« Last Edit: April 06, 2016, 10:27:27 am by FaradayUncaged »

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Re: Tuesday Beer Trivia: More Hops
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2016, 12:11:32 pm »
That was the one I missed as well, just basically from lack of knowledge. Not planning a fresh hop brew any time soon, so I guess the info is here when I need it
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Re: Tuesday Beer Trivia: More Hops
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2016, 03:26:22 pm »
I have seen the math for 4.5 times many times, and round up to 5 or 6.
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Re: Tuesday Beer Trivia: More Hops
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2016, 03:47:29 pm »
I have seen the math for 4.5 times many times, and round up to 5 or 6.

5-6 is what my taste buds tell me.
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Re: Tuesday Beer Trivia: More Hops
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2016, 05:25:17 am »
I'll stick with 5x and adjust accordingly.

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Re: Tuesday Beer Trivia: More Hops
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2016, 05:30:04 am »
5x worked when I brewed a wet-hop beer. I got that value from one of the fresh hop Brewing TV episodes.
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