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Centennial fans
« on: April 15, 2016, 02:17:58 PM »
Reveal your secrets!  What/how are you doing to coax the best out of this hop?  I can't seem to eek out the glorious orange-y perfume-y magic that is in THA or Centennial IPA and I've been brewing a long time.  Are we just stuck with 2nd rate hops since the pros snatch the cream of the crop (somewhat my current theory).  If anyone here is in Centennial nirvana, help a brother out.  Call me old school, but I think a Centennial IPA walks over the current dank/tropical offerings...   
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Re: Centennial fans
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2016, 02:23:42 PM »
As much as I love Centennial, it seems to have been hit or miss for me the past couple of years. Depending on where I purchase the hops from seems to have an effect on the hop quality provided. I have had one batch that had very little aroma (oxidized almost?) and another batch that was quite floral.

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Re: Centennial fans
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2016, 02:33:42 PM »
It's hit or miss from year to year for me, too. I get the best flavor from any American-type hop with a whirlpool steep and the best aroma from dry hopping. but year to year it's a crap shoot. I have some 2015 Cent now that's just ok to me. Not especially citrusy, just ok. It's a shame because when it's good, it's a really good hop.
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Re: Centennial fans
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2016, 03:09:48 PM »
Thanks for the confirmations.  That's life I guess...  I did have some really good results in the past using homegrown Cents but I find the whole hop growing thing a PITA.  I wonder if there is some way to track down a grower/supplier that had a good crop?  I am more than willing to pay additional for it.  Also, any thoughts that Cents might be better as a whole leaf and maybe pelletizing is the culprit? 
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Re: Centennial fans
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2016, 03:13:43 PM »
I say it over and over, but Hop Heaven has spectacular hops, including Centennial.  At least, the Centennial I got from them a few months ago were great.  Keep in mind, though, that Centennial is a hop that growers hate due to its variability and difficulty to grow.  When asked if there was one hop they'd like to get rid of, every grower on a panel I attended named Centennial.  But they also all said that it was so popular that would never happen.
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Re: Centennial fans
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2016, 03:25:21 PM »
I say it over and over, but Hop Heaven has spectacular hops, including Centennial.  At least, the Centennial I got from them a few months ago were great.  Keep in mind, though, that Centennial is a hop that growers hate due to its variability and difficulty to grow.  When asked if there was one hop they'd like to get rid of, every grower on a panel I attended named Centennial.  But they also all said that it was so popular that would never happen.

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Re: Centennial fans
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2016, 03:26:51 PM »
I say it over and over, but Hop Heaven has spectacular hops, including Centennial.  At least, the Centennial I got from them a few months ago were great.  Keep in mind, though, that Centennial is a hop that growers hate due to its variability and difficulty to grow.  When asked if there was one hop they'd like to get rid of, every grower on a panel I attended named Centennial.  But they also all said that it was so popular that would never happen.


Well I'm sold. I want to try some of his Centennial.
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Re: Centennial fans
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2016, 03:29:16 PM »
Isn't Hop Heaven the ebay store?  No Cents!!!  :'(
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Re: Centennial fans
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2016, 03:48:33 PM »
I treat Centennial like any other hop.  I have gone to only 3 additions on all my (D)IPAs.  1) FWH with a 90 minute boil.  2) Whirlpool/Steep for 15-20 minutes at flameout.  3) Keg hop.  That gives me a blend of bitterness/flavor/aroma that I really like.

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Re: Centennial fans
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2016, 03:58:10 PM »
Isn't Hop Heaven the ebay store?  No Cents!!!  :'(

Yep.  I can also put you in touch with him directly.
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Re: Centennial fans
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2016, 04:02:00 PM »
Hmmmm.  http://brulosophy.com/2015/02/23/whole-leaf-vs-pellet-hops-part-1-dry-hop-exbeeriment-results/  I used to be a big Freshops/whole hop fan in the day.  I feel a real old school brew a comin'...

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Re: Centennial fans
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2016, 04:02:59 PM »
Hmmmm.  http://brulosophy.com/2015/02/23/whole-leaf-vs-pellet-hops-part-1-dry-hop-exbeeriment-results/  I used to be a big Freshops/whole hop fan in the day.  I feel a real old school brew a comin'...

Me, too.  Dave at Freshops is a good friend.  But once I tried Ted's hops....
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Re: Centennial fans
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2016, 04:06:43 PM »
Isn't Hop Heaven the ebay store?  No Cents!!!  :'(

Yep.  I can also put you in touch with him directly.

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Re: Centennial fans
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2016, 03:09:18 PM »
Is Admiral Hops a possible switch for the citrusy (some say orange, but I have had different results) flavor for beer?  Maybe back up whirlpool, dry hop with Centennial but FB the Admiral?  Idk just thinking out of the box here.

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Re: Centennial fans
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2016, 04:04:59 PM »
Is Admiral Hops a possible switch for the citrusy (some say orange, but I have had different results) flavor for beer?  Maybe back up whirlpool, dry hop with Centennial but FB the Admiral?  Idk just thinking out of the box here.

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Never used Admiral, but Amarillo won't give you the same floral notes that Centennial will.  Amarillo is much more orangey/citrusy.  They're both favorites of mine but for different reasons.