[narvin]

Well good for you. Why are you participating in this conversation then? You should be brewing beer professionally that tastes legions better than any American craft beer. Because this fresh lingering grain flavor/aroma is not present in any American craft beer that I've had.
But we've already been over this. Not going through it all again.

I have no desire to brew commercially.  Never have.

Well, I don't blame you there. Just saying, that if you really think you have IT in your beers, you'd be number one in the country. No American craft beer has it that I've tasted. Anyway...

Not enough copper 

[69franx]

Silly question about handling of this product. I ordered a 50g packet a little less than 3 weeks ago and it has not been delivered yet, so no immediate concerns. When it does come in, how do I store it, especially after opening the packet? I would guess that there will be handling instructions somewhere on the packaging, just curious as I anxiously await delivery. I know Denny and Jon have some already, what are you doing to store it?

[HoosierBrew]

Silly question about handling of this product. I ordered a 50g packet a little less than 3 weeks ago and it has not been delivered yet, so no immediate concerns. When it does come in, how do I store it, especially after opening the packet? I would guess that there will be handling instructions somewhere on the packaging, just curious as I anxiously await delivery. I know Denny and Jon have some already, what are you doing to store it?

Since it didn't mention any special storage instructions on the package, I put it in a Ziploc and stored it in the kitchen cupboard with my water salts. If it's been 3 weeks you might email them. I emailed at 3 weeks and found out that the order was considered lost. They mailed another package that day and I had it in 2 weeks. Good luck.

[denny]

Silly question about handling of this product. I ordered a 50g packet a little less than 3 weeks ago and it has not been delivered yet, so no immediate concerns. When it does come in, how do I store it, especially after opening the packet? I would guess that there will be handling instructions somewhere on the packaging, just curious as I anxiously await delivery. I know Denny and Jon have some already, what are you doing to store it?

I keep it in the fridge, although I have no idea if it was necessary.  I just got a shipment for the EB experiment and it wasn't refrigerated and didn't have any storage instructions.  I'd guess that's becasue you don't need to do anything special.

[69franx]

Thanks Jon, haven't quite reached 3 weeks(17 days including weekends) so I am not concerned yet and have not brewed since ordering so I will give it another couple days before emailing them. Good to know on just sealing up in the cupboard. Thanks Denny. How long did your order take to arrive that you just received?

[beersk]

I have mine stored in a mason jar in my cupboard. Doesn't seem to need any particular special storage, just cool and dry I'd assume? Or just dry...not sure it matters.

[narcout]

I'd be curious to hear from the manufacturer on the storage issue.  Question for the podcast maybe?

I've been vacuum sealing it for no particular reason.

[hopfenundmalz]

Well good for you. Why are you participating in this conversation then? You should be brewing beer professionally that tastes legions better than any American craft beer. Because this fresh lingering grain flavor/aroma is not present in any American craft beer that I've had.
But we've already been over this. Not going through it all again.

I have no desire to brew commercially.  Never have.

Well, I don't blame you there. Just saying, that if you really think you have IT in your beers, you'd be number one in the country. No American craft beer has it that I've tasted. Anyway...

Would that be due to the fact that many use NA malt for at least part of the brew? Check SIerra Nevada's website, even the Oktoberfest has NA 2-row listed first for the malts. I did taste the 2010 WBC gold Pilsner they made in the pilot brewery, that was sublime, not sure if it had IT, but it tasted like an excellent German Pilsner. They can have a free hand with ingredients on one 20 bbl batch than on a production run to fill an 800 bbl (or 1600 bbl in NC) with a 200 bbl brew house.

[beersk]

Well good for you. Why are you participating in this conversation then? You should be brewing beer professionally that tastes legions better than any American craft beer. Because this fresh lingering grain flavor/aroma is not present in any American craft beer that I've had.
But we've already been over this. Not going through it all again.

I have no desire to brew commercially.  Never have.

Well, I don't blame you there. Just saying, that if you really think you have IT in your beers, you'd be number one in the country. No American craft beer has it that I've tasted. Anyway...

Would that be due to the fact that many use NA malt for at least part of the brew? Check SIerra Nevada's website, even the Oktoberfest has NA 2-row listed first for the malts. I did taste the 2010 WBC gold Pilsner they made in the pilot brewery, that was sublime, not sure if it had IT, but it tasted like an excellent German Pilsner. They can have a free hand with ingredients on one 20 bbl batch than on a production run to fill an 800 bbl (or 1600 bbl in NC) with a 200 bbl brew house.

Supposedly it doesn't matter what malt you use to get the fresh lingering grain flavor/aroma. SN Oktoberfest is definitely a good beer this year, even though it is rather hoppy. It doesn't have IT, I don't think.

[hopfenundmalz]

Well good for you. Why are you participating in this conversation then? You should be brewing beer professionally that tastes legions better than any American craft beer. Because this fresh lingering grain flavor/aroma is not present in any American craft beer that I've had.
But we've already been over this. Not going through it all again.

I have no desire to brew commercially.  Never have.

Well, I don't blame you there. Just saying, that if you really think you have IT in your beers, you'd be number one in the country. No American craft beer has it that I've tasted. Anyway...

Would that be due to the fact that many use NA malt for at least part of the brew? Check SIerra Nevada's website, even the Oktoberfest has NA 2-row listed first for the malts. I did taste the 2010 WBC gold Pilsner they made in the pilot brewery, that was sublime, not sure if it had IT, but it tasted like an excellent German Pilsner. They can have a free hand with ingredients on one 20 bbl batch than on a production run to fill an 800 bbl (or 1600 bbl in NC) with a 200 bbl brew house.

Supposedly it doesn't matter what malt you use to get the fresh lingering grain flavor/aroma. SN Oktoberfest is definitely a good beer this year, even though it is rather hoppy. It doesn't have IT, I don't think.

They brew with DO water. You can speculate where they don't have it. The brewery in NC is state of the art GEA Huppmann, the bottling line is Krones.

I will ask some questions when I am in NC next month.

[69franx]

I'd be curious to hear from the manufacturer on the storage issue.  Question for the podcast maybe?

I've been vacuum sealing it for no particular reason.

Other than, like me, you enjoy using the vacuum sealer?

[Phil_M]

They brew with DO water. You can speculate where they don't have it. The brewery in NC is state of the art GEA Huppmann, the bottling line is Krones.

I will ask some questions when I am in NC next month.

FWIW, I have noticed "IT" in some bottles of this beer. Based on my location I'd guess it came from the Mills River plant.

[EnkAMania]

I'd be curious to hear from the manufacturer on the storage issue.  Question for the podcast maybe?

I've been vacuum sealing it for no particular reason.

I vacuum seal it too, because that's how it came.  I keep it stored with my grains.  Hopefully room temp is ok.

[denny]

Thanks Jon, haven't quite reached 3 weeks(17 days including weekends) so I am not concerned yet and have not brewed since ordering so I will give it another couple days before emailing them. Good to know on just sealing up in the cupboard. Thanks Denny. How long did your order take to arrive that you just received?

Well, it's kinda different...I got them directly from my contact at the company.

[denny]

I'd be curious to hear from the manufacturer on the storage issue.  Question for the podcast maybe?

I've been vacuum sealing it for no particular reason.

I'll definitely ask him.