Since ive gone lodo I seem to get more of that fresh grain flavor and aroma (IT) in my light lagers compared to my amber and dark lagers. Maybe it has something to do with more Pils malt vs darker Munich's and specialty malts? My darker beers are better too but nothing like the smack you in the face flavor and especially the aroma I get from my Helles. I had a old beer drinking buddy over this last weekend, we were drinking my helles and he said " this smells so good I could sit here with my nose in this mug all night".