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Re: Brewtan B
« Reply #945 on: November 30, 2016, 01:40:08 pm »
Proper dosing as I understand it is as follows...

1/4 tsp per every 5 gallons of strike water
1/4 tsp per every 5 gallons of mash water used
1/2 tsp with about 15 minutes left in boil prior to adding any clarifiers (irish moss, whirlfloc, etc) mixed with small amount of wort (1/2 cup or so) before adding back to boil.

Make that mash water and sparge water and you've got it! 
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Re: Brewtan B
« Reply #946 on: November 30, 2016, 01:41:44 pm »
Yep...I do most of my measurements in mass. My question/concern though is that I'm not ADDING extra water past the mash step. I'm not adding sparging water like most do. Most of the BTB will be bound up in the grain because I recirculate and will be lifted out when I pull my grain basket. Beyond that my boil isn't 5gal.

The recommendations Joe gives (stated in tsp measurements) vs. the stated measurements & calculations from the manufacturer are different. Denny wants to stick with Joe's recommendations. I'd like to try both. Maybe I'm thinking about this wrong.

Is it true to say...In the mash, I'm adding BTB with the expectation that most of the BTB will be left behind in the grain? Is it also true to say I'm then adding BTB to the boil with the expectation being I'll leave most of that behind in the trub? If that's the case, I'll calculate based on my volume of mash water and then at the end of the boil.

Sound correct?

Anyone have the grams per gallon recommendation from the manufacturer. I know it was posted on here earlier, but can't find the exact post.

I don't think so...it dissolves in to the water.
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Re: Brewtan B
« Reply #947 on: December 02, 2016, 07:20:35 am »
Yep...I do most of my measurements in mass. My question/concern though is that I'm not ADDING extra water past the mash step. I'm not adding sparging water like most do. Most of the BTB will be bound up in the grain because I recirculate and will be lifted out when I pull my grain basket. Beyond that my boil isn't 5gal.

The recommendations Joe gives (stated in tsp measurements) vs. the stated measurements & calculations from the manufacturer are different. Denny wants to stick with Joe's recommendations. I'd like to try both. Maybe I'm thinking about this wrong.

Is it true to say...In the mash, I'm adding BTB with the expectation that most of the BTB will be left behind in the grain? Is it also true to say I'm then adding BTB to the boil with the expectation being I'll leave most of that behind in the trub? If that's the case, I'll calculate based on my volume of mash water and then at the end of the boil.

Sound correct?

Anyone have the grams per gallon recommendation from the manufacturer. I know it was posted on here earlier, but can't find the exact post.

I don't think so...it dissolves in to the water.

I think it will dissolve in water yes, but it going to bind with the material and drop out and be left behind in the mash, boil, etc. That's the whole point of it, to bind and precipitate those metals so they don't make it to finish product and super oxidize. Think whirfloc.

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Re: Brewtan B
« Reply #948 on: December 02, 2016, 05:17:02 pm »
Proper dosing as I understand it is as follows...

1/4 tsp per every 5 gallons of strike water
1/4 tsp per every 5 gallons of mash water used
1/2 tsp with about 15 minutes left in boil prior to adding any clarifiers (irish moss, whirlfloc, etc) mixed with small amount of wort (1/2 cup or so) before adding back to boil.

Make that mash water and sparge water and you've got it!

Ooops. Thanks for the catch there Denny!

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Re: Brewtan B
« Reply #949 on: December 12, 2016, 02:01:49 pm »
Over the weekend I kicked the keg of my fourth and probably final Brewtan B only batch (subsequent batches have incorporated additional low oxygen measures). 

I honestly can't tell if it made any difference in flavor, but I didn't perform any side by side tests as my system isn't set up for brewing simultaneous batches.  I'll be curious to hear the results from the Experimental Brewing Podcast triangle tests.

One thing I am pretty sure of is that it did not help chill haze to clear any faster than usual.
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Re: Brewtan B
« Reply #950 on: December 12, 2016, 02:04:03 pm »


One thing I am pretty sure of is that it did not help chill haze to clear any faster than usual.
I haven't found it to help with chill haze either. I've been using it in conjunction with low oxygen brewing though. I'm sure once I run out of it, I'll just stop using it, but I might as well use it if I have it.
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Re: Brewtan B
« Reply #951 on: December 14, 2016, 06:11:04 am »
Over the weekend I kicked the keg of my fourth and probably final Brewtan B only batch (subsequent batches have incorporated additional low oxygen measures). 

I honestly can't tell if it made any difference in flavor, but I didn't perform any side by side tests as my system isn't set up for brewing simultaneous batches.  I'll be curious to hear the results from the Experimental Brewing Podcast triangle tests.

One thing I am pretty sure of is that it did not help chill haze to clear any faster than usual.

I use it at the brewery again as an additional assurance/quality control and I just can't say I notice any difference either. Hopefully it extends my shelf life, but I don't really have a way to try side by side experiments. I can't really tell a difference in the clarity of the wort or the finished beer either but that just hasn't been a huge issue for me before.

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Re: Brewtan B
« Reply #952 on: December 14, 2016, 06:29:15 am »
FWIW after brewing several batches with it, I think the difference I noticed came from its ability to eliminate copper chiller-related oxidation. It was noticeable with my sloppy, splashing approach. Trying to tighten that up now. 
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Re: Brewtan B
« Reply #953 on: December 14, 2016, 06:45:47 am »
FWIW after brewing several batches with it, I think the difference I noticed came from its ability to eliminate copper chiller-related oxidation. It was noticeable with my sloppy, splashing approach. Trying to tighten that up now. 
Now that you're incorporating some low oxygen techniques, you'll start seeing less and less of a difference with Brewtan B. I do miss my copper chiller though.
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Re: Brewtan B
« Reply #954 on: December 14, 2016, 06:51:45 am »
FWIW after brewing several batches with it, I think the difference I noticed came from its ability to eliminate copper chiller-related oxidation. It was noticeable with my sloppy, splashing approach. Trying to tighten that up now. 
Now that you're incorporating some low oxygen techniques, you'll start seeing less and less of a difference with Brewtan B. I do miss my copper chiller though.


Yeah the huge difference was in the lodo batch I just did. Can't wait to brew again - hopefully this weekend. I'm thinking Dunkel.


Edit - I said goodbye to my copper chiller, too.
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Re: Brewtan B
« Reply #955 on: December 14, 2016, 07:26:56 am »
FWIW after brewing several batches with it, I think the difference I noticed came from its ability to eliminate copper chiller-related oxidation. It was noticeable with my sloppy, splashing approach. Trying to tighten that up now. 
Now that you're incorporating some low oxygen techniques, you'll start seeing less and less of a difference with Brewtan B. I do miss my copper chiller though.


Yeah the huge difference was in the lodo batch I just did. Can't wait to brew again - hopefully this weekend. I'm thinking Dunkel.


Edit - I said goodbye to my copper chiller, too.
Ah but you got a 1/2" stainless chiller right? Didn't want to shell out the dineros although I'm kinda wishing I had now.
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Re: Brewtan B
« Reply #956 on: December 14, 2016, 07:33:31 am »
FWIW after brewing several batches with it, I think the difference I noticed came from its ability to eliminate copper chiller-related oxidation. It was noticeable with my sloppy, splashing approach. Trying to tighten that up now. 
Now that you're incorporating some low oxygen techniques, you'll start seeing less and less of a difference with Brewtan B. I do miss my copper chiller though.


Yeah the huge difference was in the lodo batch I just did. Can't wait to brew again - hopefully this weekend. I'm thinking Dunkel.


Edit - I said goodbye to my copper chiller, too.
Ah but you got a 1/2" stainless chiller right? Didn't want to shell out the dineros although I'm kinda wishing I had now.


I got a 50' 3/8". Fits the dimensions of my overly wide pot better, ie., don't want coils sticking up out of the wort. A better pot at some point. It'll work fine.
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Re: Brewtan B
« Reply #957 on: December 14, 2016, 08:07:56 am »


I got a 50' 3/8". Fits the dimensions of my overly wide pot better, ie., don't want coils sticking up out of the wort. A better pot at some point. It'll work fine.
Gotcha. I think you may notice slower chilling times if you went from 1/2" copper to 3/8" stainless. Which sucks, but it's a trade off...
Next purchase is likely a brewbucket...
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Re: Brewtan B
« Reply #958 on: December 14, 2016, 08:30:56 am »


I got a 50' 3/8". Fits the dimensions of my overly wide pot better, ie., don't want coils sticking up out of the wort. A better pot at some point. It'll work fine.
Gotcha. I think you may notice slower chilling times if you went from 1/2" copper to 3/8" stainless. Which sucks, but it's a trade off...
Next purchase is likely a brewbucket...

Went from 3/8 to 3/8. No sense in spending $ on coils that stick up out of the wort.
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Re: Brewtan B
« Reply #959 on: December 14, 2016, 09:58:48 am »
Next purchase is likely a brewbucket...


Me,too.
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