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Re: Nottingham dry yeast and esters
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2019, 04:38:36 pm »
Sorry to resurrect this thread.

Anyone have further comments about Notty fermented near 60F (or just general comments)?

Planning a cream ale and was wondering if it would be appropriate if fermented cool. I mainly don't want to buy yeast and thought this may work. I will be collecting slurry from an IPA that will be dry hopped in the keg.

I am also considering a blend of 2565/Notty slurries but that's another story...
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Re: Nottingham dry yeast and esters
« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2019, 04:52:26 pm »
Notty will be good in a cream ale.
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Re: Nottingham dry yeast and esters
« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2019, 05:04:44 pm »
Notty will be good in a cream ale.

Just be sure to ferment cool?
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Re: Nottingham dry yeast and esters
« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2019, 05:12:23 pm »
Notty will be good in a cream ale.

Just be sure to ferment cool?

Well, no different really from my standard recommendation for almost any ale, which would be to aim for approximately 64 F plus or minus 3 degrees... approximately... i.e., low 60s.
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Re: Nottingham dry yeast and esters
« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2019, 05:21:12 pm »
Notty will be good in a cream ale.

Just be sure to ferment cool?

Well, no different really from my standard recommendation for almost any ale, which would be to aim for approximately 64 F plus or minus 3 degrees... approximately... i.e., low 60s.

Great thanks. I thought it started to get too estery and less clean as get above the mid 60s.
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Re: Nottingham dry yeast and esters
« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2019, 06:15:40 pm »
I used Nottingham in 2 recent English Pale Ales and it cleaned the beer up nicely.  No off-flavors, just a slight fruity ester-y thing but very, very clean.  I fermented both beers in the 66-68 degree range and both took off quickly.  I would say my definition of air-lock activity (at least one burp per minute) was over in about 3-1/2 days.  I left both beers on the yeast for 2 weeks.
I just made a Cream Ale and used US-05.  Fermentation started at about the same time, but was more tortoise-like (5 days of at least one burp/minute) as opposed to the Notty hare.  Unfortunately, I haven't bottled this yet...this weekend's project.

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Re: Nottingham dry yeast and esters
« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2019, 06:22:53 pm »
I have an IPA finishing up now. It's been between 64-67F and performed so much better than US-05 which used to be my go to. If it's clean enough at lower temps, I will likely stop using 05 altogether although it is reliably clean into the 70s.

Let's please not get into the peach thing that a lot of people get from 05...
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Re: Nottingham dry yeast and esters
« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2019, 06:46:29 pm »
I have an IPA finishing up now. It's been between 64-67F and performed so much better than US-05 which used to be my go to. If it's clean enough at lower temps, I will likely stop using 05 altogether although it is reliably clean into the 70s.

Let's please not get into the peach thing that a lot of people get from 05...

Try using 34/70 for an ale, or BRY97.  Both much cleaner than 05 or Notty.
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Re: Nottingham dry yeast and esters
« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2019, 06:47:48 pm »
I have an IPA finishing up now. It's been between 64-67F and performed so much better than US-05 which used to be my go to. If it's clean enough at lower temps, I will likely stop using 05 altogether although it is reliably clean into the 70s.

Let's please not get into the peach thing that a lot of people get from 05...

Try using 34/70 for an ale, or BRY97.  Both much cleaner than 05 or Notty.

Or 1007..... Mmmmmmmm…………….
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Re: Nottingham dry yeast and esters
« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2019, 07:26:43 pm »
I have an IPA finishing up now. It's been between 64-67F and performed so much better than US-05 which used to be my go to. If it's clean enough at lower temps, I will likely stop using 05 altogether although it is reliably clean into the 70s.

Let's please not get into the peach thing that a lot of people get from 05...

Try using 34/70 for an ale, or BRY97.  Both much cleaner than 05 or Notty.

Or 1007..... Mmmmmmmm…………….

Yeah, but I was trying to stay with dry yeast since that's what he's using.  Otherwise, 1450....
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Re: Nottingham dry yeast and esters
« Reply #25 on: July 11, 2019, 07:37:01 pm »
I have wy2565 as well which I know will work. Likely going with that or a blend of that and Notty at 60f for fun.

Forgot that 1450 works perfectly for literally every style  ;). JK Denny. I realize my sense of humor doesn't travel well over the interwebs.

Should have started a new thread. Sorry! This got derailed quickly.
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Re: Nottingham dry yeast and esters
« Reply #26 on: July 13, 2019, 09:44:46 pm »

Try using 34/70 for an ale, or BRY97.  Both much cleaner than 05 or Notty.




I did a version of the no-boil recipe in the current issue of Zymurgy with BRY97 and it came out pretty good, once it actually started.
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Re: Nottingham dry yeast and esters
« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2019, 10:53:31 pm »
I have an IPA finishing up now. It's been between 64-67F and performed so much better than US-05 which used to be my go to. If it's clean enough at lower temps, I will likely stop using 05 altogether although it is reliably clean into the 70s.

Let's please not get into the peach thing that a lot of people get from 05...

Try using 34/70 for an ale, or BRY97.  Both much cleaner than 05 or Notty.

   34/&0 at ale temps or lager temps????
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Re: Nottingham dry yeast and esters
« Reply #28 on: July 14, 2019, 02:31:20 pm »
I have an IPA finishing up now. It's been between 64-67F and performed so much better than US-05 which used to be my go to. If it's clean enough at lower temps, I will likely stop using 05 altogether although it is reliably clean into the 70s.

Let's please not get into the peach thing that a lot of people get from 05...

Try using 34/70 for an ale, or BRY97.  Both much cleaner than 05 or Notty.

   34/&0 at ale temps or lager temps????

34/70 at ale temps.  Works great for me.
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Re: Nottingham dry yeast and esters
« Reply #29 on: July 14, 2019, 09:45:54 pm »
Slightly off topic but Rite Brew has really good prices on dry yeast and shipping is cheap if that is all you are buying.

34/70: $4.29/pack
S-189: $4.09/pack