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Which base malt would you use at 100% for an APA

Simpson's Golden Promise
8 (29.6%)
Rahr Two Row
7 (25.9%)
Crisp Pale Ale
6 (22.2%)
Simpson's Marris Otter
5 (18.5%)
something else or I would never use 100% base malt for APA
1 (3.7%)

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Offline erockrph

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Re: 100% base malt for APA
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2016, 04:14:17 PM »
My vote was for Golden Promise. I just brewed a SMaSH amber using 100% Golden Promise, some of it being homemade crystal malt made from GP. I wish I could tell you if it was any good, but the keg kicked in record time at my 6-year old's birthday party lol.

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Re: 100% base malt for APA
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2016, 04:19:27 PM »
Couple quick comments.....

unless you start with green, unkilned malt, you're not really making crystal malt at home.

For my own tastes, a 100% base malt APA, no matter what kind of malt, turns out kinda boring.  I prefer the depth of flavor from a blend of malts.  If you're concerned about crystal hiding too much flavor, try the new Great Western Sacchra malts.  Kinda like a cross between crystal and Munich.
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Re: 100% base malt for APA
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2016, 04:28:26 PM »
For my own tastes, a 100% base malt APA, no matter what kind of malt, turns out kinda boring.  I prefer the depth of flavor from a blend of malts.  If you're concerned about crystal hiding too much flavor, try the new Great Western Sacchra malts.  Kinda like a cross between crystal and Munich.

I don't think I can get great western from my LHBS. I have been considering trying Patagonia crystal which they do carry after hearing good things.

I think this go around I will just stick with base malt since it will be a hop forward APA. In future iterations, I will likely add some crystal back.
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Re: 100% base malt for APA
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2016, 04:31:52 PM »
Couple quick comments.....

unless you start with green, unkilned malt, you're not really making crystal malt at home.

For my own tastes, a 100% base malt APA, no matter what kind of malt, turns out kinda boring.  I prefer the depth of flavor from a blend of malts.  If you're concerned about crystal hiding too much flavor, try the new Great Western Sacchra malts.  Kinda like a cross between crystal and Munich.


Those sound like nice malts. I'll be looking for them.
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Re: 100% base malt for APA
« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2016, 05:04:52 PM »
Couple quick comments.....

unless you start with green, unkilned malt, you're not really making crystal malt at home.

For my own tastes, a 100% base malt APA, no matter what kind of malt, turns out kinda boring.  I prefer the depth of flavor from a blend of malts.  If you're concerned about crystal hiding too much flavor, try the new Great Western Sacchra malts.  Kinda like a cross between crystal and Munich.



Those sound like nice malts. I'll be looking for them.

https://shop.brewcraftusa.com/en/new-from-great-western-malting/great-western-sacchra-50-carmel-malt-50l-50lb-bag-gw-sacchra
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Re: 100% base malt for APA
« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2016, 07:06:23 PM »
Denny, that does sound like an awesome malt to experiment with
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Re: 100% base malt for APA
« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2016, 09:48:53 PM »
Couple quick comments.....

unless you start with green, unkilned malt, you're not really making crystal malt at home.

For my own tastes, a 100% base malt APA, no matter what kind of malt, turns out kinda boring.  I prefer the depth of flavor from a blend of malts.  If you're concerned about crystal hiding too much flavor, try the new Great Western Sacchra malts.  Kinda like a cross between crystal and Munich.



Those sound like nice malts. I'll be looking for them.

https://shop.brewcraftusa.com/en/new-from-great-western-malting/great-western-sacchra-50-carmel-malt-50l-50lb-bag-gw-sacchra



Thanks, Denny!  This sounds like it could be a good one.
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Re: 100% base malt for APA
« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2016, 04:42:44 PM »
Golden Promise is the winner. Thanks! Hoping to brew this weekend or next.
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Re: 100% base malt for APA
« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2016, 04:37:21 PM »
to me it won't turn out any more complex than and English golden ale 12A
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Re: 100% base malt for APA
« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2016, 05:57:58 PM »
to me it won't turn out any more complex than and English golden ale 12A
I really like some of those.
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Re: 100% base malt for APA
« Reply #25 on: July 07, 2016, 06:08:30 PM »
to me it won't turn out any more complex than and English golden ale 12A

Never had one. You tell me. APA or EGA? Malt complexity is not the goal here.

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