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Offline Docniel

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What do you think?
« on: July 16, 2016, 02:14:54 PM »
Morning,
I just started using the AHA forum, though I've been on other forums before this.
Anyway, I have this older ale that was doing great till this morning. Granted its been a few days since I checked on it after swapping over to secondary about 8 day's ago.
I actually went done stairs to get eggs, when I saw what appears oo be a pedicle starting to form. It smells a little winey.I've made lambics before, though typically fruits ones.
Anyone so do older ale have this show up?
 How long should I let it sit like this.
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Re: What do you think?
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2016, 03:04:56 PM »
A photo would help. A pelicle implies infection.

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Re: What do you think?
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2016, 03:42:53 PM »
[img]https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157093456370361&id=536985360/img
Not sure if that will work.

If it doesn't,
I will try to describe iit better.
What it has on the surface is a thin white layer with raised lines.
« Last Edit: July 16, 2016, 03:46:56 PM by Docniel »

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Re: What do you think?
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2016, 03:56:58 PM »
Sounds like an infection. You can let it ride and see how it progresses. You should certainly examine your cleaning and sanitation practices.

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Re: What do you think?
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2016, 06:07:21 PM »
If it's white and filmy or clear with a shiny film then it's likely a pellicle. Is it possible you used some kind of ole ale yeast blend that contained brett? If not and it is a pellicle then you picked up an infection somewhere. Might as well let it ride a little and see how it turns out.

Sometimes beers will develop a little oily surface as they age which is not a pellicle. It's just oils in the beer floating to the surface.
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Re: What do you think?
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2016, 06:28:18 PM »
Good call, if an Oud Bruin blend was used, it would certainly developed a pelicle over time.

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Re: What do you think?
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2016, 04:13:07 AM »
That is what I am thinking too!
I looks like the beginnings of Lambic
How long should I give it? 1 month??

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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2016, 08:01:01 PM »
As questioned above, what yeast strain did you use to make this one?

Depending on the available residual sugars in your old ale will really determine the length of time for the beer to ferment from the wild yeast/bacterial infection. If this is what it is, then you will most likely need at least several months for the beer to work itself out, probably more.

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« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2016, 11:41:16 AM »
Sorry, I've been busy getting the wife y to go on tour. I used a lager yeast.
So this is probably inflected. I've just can't oor the life of me figure out where I would have picked it up. Its just that the "film" on the top just looked weird.
Its a shame too because the test sample before I racked it over was really good. I'm still thinking about letting it sit for a couple of more weeks to be sure.

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« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2016, 12:13:25 PM »
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So, let me know if this link works.

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What do you think?
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2016, 01:46:45 PM »

That is a pellicle. You absolutely have some sort of wild yeast or bacteria working there. What yeast strain did you use?

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« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2016, 02:47:57 PM »
S-23.
But we do, a lot of fermentation in the house too.
So I  probably  picked up  something from the mead.
« Last Edit: July 24, 2016, 02:54:52 PM by Docniel »

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« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2016, 02:55:35 PM »
So you brewed an old ales with a dry lager yeast?

I don't understand your second line.

Edit to add - the above doesn't answer your infection issue. I would recommend giving everything a good cleaning and sanitizing. If you use starsan, consider using some iodophor this time around. Starsan will not kill Brett and wild (or domestic) yeasts.
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« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2016, 03:51:31 PM »
It was an experiment gone right.

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Re: What do you think?
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2016, 01:37:52 AM »
The infections I've had came from my auto-siphon.  Iodophors solved my issues. Those were the days before I came here. At the time, I thought Starsan killed everything.


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