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Espresso machines
« on: July 23, 2016, 08:04:07 AM »
Who has a great recommendation on Espresso machines? I owned a cheap Delongi for several years that made a decent shot. Looking maybe at this one on Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/Breville-BES870XL-Barista-Express-Espresso/dp/B00CH9QWOU/ref=sr_1_6?s=kitchen&ie=UTF8&qid=1469285740&sr=1-6&keywords=espresso+machine

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Re: Espresso machines
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2016, 08:30:16 AM »
I use one sporadically so a cheap Mr coffee has been all I need. When I am looking to get a fairly pricey kitchen item I go to Cook's illustrated to see if they have done some reviews.
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2016, 08:35:57 AM »
Yeah I don't want a cheap steam powered one. The good ones use a pump. The Delongi I had was a 15 bar pump driven espresso machine. Looks like they are still available and under a $100.

From the reviews of all the espresso machines I have seen on line it seems like you can only rent them, not own them, since they wear out after a couple of years.

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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2016, 09:36:41 AM »
 would get the model without the burr grinder. you probably already have a good grinder. why pay for another one?
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Re: Espresso machines
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2016, 11:23:02 AM »
I like coffeegeek for reviews: http://coffeegeek.com/reviews/consumer/brevillebes860xl

In the old days, during my espresso serial obsession, the rule was to first buy the best grinder you can afford and then buy for an espresso machine. I used to have  a Rancilio Silvia with an external pid . Then my coffee obsession went out of hand, and now I hand-pour filter coffee. With the right quality of coffee (the best and freshest light roasted you can find), better than 90% of espresso coffee.
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Re: Espresso machines
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2016, 11:24:34 AM »
I've had an earlier model of this for at least six years and it's still going strong (I seriously can't remember when I bought it).
https://www.amazon.com/Philips-Saeco-Espresso-Machine-Stainless/dp/B00141AZOA

I don't use it every day, so maybe it wouldn't last as long under heavier use.
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Re: Espresso machines
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2016, 12:51:03 PM »
I like coffeegeek for reviews: http://coffeegeek.com/reviews/consumer/brevillebes860xl

In the old days, during my espresso serial obsession, the rule was to first buy the best grinder you can afford and then buy for an espresso machine. I used to have  a Rancilio Silvia with an external pid . Then my coffee obsession went out of hand, and now I hand-pour filter coffee. With the right quality of coffee (the best and freshest light roasted you can find), better than 90% of espresso coffee.

Thanks. Your coffee set up is exactly what I use and I agree it makes superior coffee. But it doesn't make espresso. ;)

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Re: Espresso machines
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2016, 12:52:12 PM »
would get the model without the burr grinder. you probably already have a good grinder. why pay for another one?

You are right, I do already have a top of the line burr gringer. I bought this one anyway because, well, what the hell. :0

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Re: Espresso machines
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2016, 09:16:30 PM »
the /r/coffee wiki over on reddit has a lot of really good info broken down by price range. There are also sections on grinders, pour-overs, etc etc on the main page:

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Re: Espresso machines
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2016, 07:33:45 AM »
Who has a great recommendation on Espresso machines? I owned a cheap Delongi for several years that made a decent shot. Looking maybe at this one on Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/Breville-BES870XL-Barista-Express-Espresso/dp/B00CH9QWOU/ref=sr_1_6?s=kitchen&ie=UTF8&qid=1469285740&sr=1-6&keywords=espresso+machine

We have this one.  No complaints, makes great espresso.
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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2016, 06:47:46 AM »
We had a krupps a long time ago and it made great espresso until it crapped out.    We’ve had a rancilio silvia and have been making espresso on it everyday for a few years now.  I have been very happy with it, but it can be finicky.  Grind, freshness of beans, amount of pressure tamping. It can take a while to get the hang of making great espresso every time and you definitely need a good burr grinder. The most important thing is the coffee.  If you use crappy coffee expect crappy espresso.
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« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2016, 07:48:40 AM »
We had a krupps a long time ago and it made great espresso until it crapped out.    We’ve had a rancilio silvia and have been making espresso on it everyday for a few years now.  I have been very happy with it, but it can be finicky.  Grind, freshness of beans, amount of pressure tamping. It can take a while to get the hang of making great espresso every time and you definitely need a good burr grinder. The most important thing is the coffee.  If you use crappy coffee expect crappy espresso.

I only use whole beans from a local roaster and have a top of the line burr grinder. I'm probably a bigger coffee snob than I am beer snob.

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« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2016, 07:49:13 AM »
Who has a great recommendation on Espresso machines? I owned a cheap Delongi for several years that made a decent shot. Looking maybe at this one on Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/Breville-BES870XL-Barista-Express-Espresso/dp/B00CH9QWOU/ref=sr_1_6?s=kitchen&ie=UTF8&qid=1469285740&sr=1-6&keywords=espresso+machine

We have this one.  No complaints, makes great espresso.

Awesome! I'm pretty excited about receiving the unit.

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« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2016, 03:10:53 PM »
I only use whole beans from a local roaster and have a top of the line burr grinder. I'm probably a bigger coffee snob than I am beer snob.

Same here. I hope single origin coffee, relatively lightly roasted, and you use filtered water?
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« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2016, 03:12:58 PM »
Plus, you only use the freshest possible coffee of which you know on which day it has been roasted, and, if necessary, store the beans in the freezer? And if you go to Italy you bring your own coffee? And you own a roaster?
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