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Issues trying to make an IPA
« on: August 31, 2016, 06:36:35 PM »
So I am a partial mash brewer.  Ive been having issues trying to make a good IPA.  I first using water from my house (which I found was not good for beer).  So I switched to using 100% distilled water and using some gypsum when doing the partial mash.  However, my beers are still not coming out hoppy enough.  I always do 60 minute addition of bittering hop,  10 minute addition, and then a 20 minute hop steep once I cool the wort to 175.  When I do this method, it comes out hoppier than if I don't.  I was wondering if there is something else I am missing/doing wrong?  Do I need other additives besides the gypsum? Should I post my next recipe I am going to do? Thanks in advance for any advice or help.   

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Re: Issues trying to make an IPA
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2016, 06:43:35 PM »
What is your calculated ibu for the 60? Where are your dry hops?

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Re: Issues trying to make an IPA
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2016, 06:45:22 PM »
I always use Beersmith 2 for my recipe design and IBUs usually calculated around 80.  I usually dry hop for 5 days before bottling.

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Re: Issues trying to make an IPA
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2016, 06:46:29 PM »
So I am a partial mash brewer.  Ive been having issues trying to make a good IPA.  I first using water from my house (which I found was not good for beer).  So I switched to using 100% distilled water and using some gypsum when doing the partial mash.  However, my beers are still not coming out hoppy enough.  I always do 60 minute addition of bittering hop,  10 minute addition, and then a 20 minute hop steep once I cool the wort to 175.  When I do this method, it comes out hoppier than if I don't.  I was wondering if there is something else I am missing/doing wrong?  Do I need other additives besides the gypsum? Should I post my next recipe I am going to do? Thanks in advance for any advice or help.   



Post your recipe and process. You could add a tad more gypsum to accentuate hop character (but I wouldn't go over 2 tsp/5 gals). And you can always use more hops in the boil and/or the hop stand. Also, extending the amount of time you steep the hops makes a difference in hop intensity. Try 45 minutes next time, stirring every few minutes. Steve beat me to it about dry hops. 

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Re: Issues trying to make an IPA
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2016, 06:50:20 PM »
I do a FWH, whirlpool and dry hop and it works for me.  I use the Bru'n water pale ale profile

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Re: Issues trying to make an IPA
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2016, 06:52:06 PM »
I don't know what he volume is, but I added about 15 grams of gypsum to my last IPA + 6 ish grams of Epsom salt. This is all-grain, so I don't know about adding Epsom salt to partial mash

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Re: Issues trying to make an IPA
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2016, 06:55:50 PM »
I don't know what he volume is, but I added about 15 grams of gypsum to my last IPA + 6 ish grams of Epsom salt. This is all-grain, so I don't know about adding Epsom salt to partial mash


Yeah, he'd be better off to up the hops instead of more gypsum, given the partial extract. I saw it but it didn't register. OP - does it need more bitterness? More late hop character? Both?
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Re: Issues trying to make an IPA
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2016, 06:59:28 PM »
I do a FWH, whirlpool and dry hop and it works for me.  I use the Bru'n water pale ale profile

I tried Bru'N water and couldnt follow it lol

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Re: Issues trying to make an IPA
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2016, 07:00:34 PM »
I don't know what he volume is, but I added about 15 grams of gypsum to my last IPA + 6 ish grams of Epsom salt. This is all-grain, so I don't know about adding Epsom salt to partial mash


Yeah, he'd be better off to up the hops instead of more gypsum, given the partial extract. I saw it but it didn't register. OP - does it need more bitterness? More late hop character? Both?

I used 16 ounces of hops in my last brew and it was lacking bitterness and hop character.  Thats why I posted this.   I will post my next recipe and try whatever is suggested

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Re: Issues trying to make an IPA
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2016, 07:11:17 PM »
Partial Mash IPA 5 Gallon Recipe

Partial Mash Grain:
4lbs Golden Promise
0.5lbs Crystal 10L
0.5lbs Flaked Wheat
0.5lbs Vienna
1 tsp Gypsum

6.6 Pale Liquid Malt Extract

Hops:
60 minutes 1 ounce Warrior
10 minutes 1 ounce Amarillo
10 minutes 1 ounce Cascade
10 minutes 1 ounce Centennial

Cool wort to 175
2 ounces Amarillo
2 ounces Cascade
2 ounces Centennial

Dry Hop for 5 days
2 ounces Amarillo
2 ounces Cascade

« Last Edit: August 31, 2016, 07:20:03 PM by golfgod04 »

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Re: Issues trying to make an IPA
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2016, 09:40:24 PM »
Unfortunately, Bru'n Water is complicated enough to actually require a new user to READ THE INSTRUCTIONS. After a user understands the flow of inputs and outputs, most say its very intuitive. You may need to spend more than 30 seconds.

Adding gypsum for an IPA is a good idea, but you do need to assess what the ending concentrations are. If you don't add enough, the effect may be insignificant. If you add too much, it may be too drying and the beer pH may have been driven too low (also bad for hop perception).
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Re: Issues trying to make an IPA
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2016, 09:49:40 PM »
Unfortunately, Bru'n Water is complicated enough to actually require a new user to READ THE INSTRUCTIONS.

You also have help comments in practically every cell 
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Re: Issues trying to make an IPA
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2016, 02:43:05 AM »
Ive read bru'n water several times and been confused by it still, especially since i use 100% distilled water.

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Re: Issues trying to make an IPA
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2016, 03:13:18 AM »
Ive read bru'n water several times and been confused by it still, especially since i use 100% distilled water.
That makes it even easier as you could skip ahead to tab 3. But I don't know about using it with partial mash

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Re: Issues trying to make an IPA
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2016, 03:41:55 AM »
Play around with it for about 30 minutes.  Read the cells and instructions.  Brew a beer with it.  Adjust if needed.  Repeat.