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Wich is the better bock yeast
« on: September 17, 2016, 12:54:34 PM »
I'd like to hear opinions on which dry yeast would work better for my current batch of bock. The Wyeast pack I pitched into the starter last night turned out to be a total dud. What I have available is S-23, 34/70 and Mangrove Jacks California Lager. The S.G. of the wort is 1.079, I will do a 1 1/2 quart starter, and will be using Jamil & John's modified Narziss method. The recipe suggests using the s-23 but my experience thus far with that yeast leaves me with some concerns.
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Re: Wich is the better bock yeast
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2016, 12:59:17 PM »
34/70
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Re: Wich is the better bock yeast
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2016, 03:35:24 PM »
What are your concerns about S-23?
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Re: Wich is the better bock yeast
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2016, 03:41:23 PM »
   Sorry, early morning cranial flatulence - looking at my notes S-23 actually has worked well for me, unbelievable amount of yeast sludge in the bottom of the conical but almost none at all in the bottles and reasonable attenuation.
   Dave, could you please expound upon your preference for 34/70.
 
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Re: Wich is the better bock yeast
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2016, 03:51:31 PM »
S-189.
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Re: Wich is the better bock yeast
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2016, 03:54:58 PM »
Or you could give your starter more time. Decant it and add weaker wort. Even if you're brewing today you could pitch tomorrow morning.


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Re: Wich is the better bock yeast
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2016, 03:57:14 PM »
34/70 is the perfect bock dry yeast or any other German style lagers. there is not one that will perform better. S-189 would be my second choice.

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Re: Wich is the better bock yeast
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2016, 04:02:55 PM »
   I brewed yesterday, the beer is okay for now in a 44 degree fridge. I pitched the yeast in the starter last night and now it is just sludge on the bottom of the container, in spite of having been shaken a couple of times. I'm thinking it is dead and planning on staying that way.
   I appreciate the suggestion of the s189, but I have none in stock, it's a 250 mile round trip to the nearest LHBS and I intend to get the ball rolling today. Besides, I've had enough windshield time lately.
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Re: Wich is the better bock yeast
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2016, 04:15:05 PM »
Many of us would be on a strict liquid diet if it weren't for pretzels.

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Re: Wich is the better bock yeast
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2016, 04:19:52 PM »
What are your concerns about S-23?

I found it to produce the worst results of any yeast I've ever used.  I'd describe it as disgustingly fruity.  John Palmer called is passion fruit wine cooler.
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Re: Wich is the better bock yeast
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2016, 05:17:46 PM »
What are your concerns about S-23?

Definitely NOT a lager yeast.

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Re: Wich is the better bock yeast
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2016, 05:46:56 PM »
What are your concerns about S-23?

I found it to produce the worst results of any yeast I've ever used.  I'd describe it as disgustingly fruity.  John Palmer called is passion fruit wine cooler.
Ha!  Sounds like it would make a Kolsch yeast (at least the wine part).  ;)
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Re: Wich is the better bock yeast
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2016, 06:10:01 PM »
  I went with the recommendation and used 34/70, now if it doesn't work out I can blame y'all ;). Obviously s-23 isn't very popular with this bunch.
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Re: Wich is the better bock yeast
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2016, 06:26:14 PM »
  I went with the recommendation and used 34/70, now if it doesn't work out I can blame y'all ;). Obviously s-23 isn't very popular with this bunch.

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Re: Wich is the better bock yeast
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2016, 06:31:26 PM »
  I went with the recommendation and used 34/70, now if it doesn't work out I can blame y'all ;) . Obviously s-23 isn't very popular with this bunch.
34/70 is fool-proof, which is why it's my favorite yeast.  Even I can't eff it up.  ;D
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