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Re: Hochkurz vs 150F - The 'play nice' thread
« Reply #105 on: August 02, 2016, 01:50:07 AM »
Dave, if I understood correctly, you used diferent recipes for each batch?

No sir.  Same recipe, different efficiencies, different mash processes.  I used all the same malt percentages for each batch, just different masses based on the efficiencies and processes used in an attempt to hit the same OG for each.  Got 1.049 and 1.054, 81% and 64% efficiency.  Not too shabby I thought.  It's like a quadrupel variable experiment, so some might be skeptical as to applicability of results, but hey, it's my experiment.  :)

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Re: Hochkurz vs 150F - The 'play nice' thread
« Reply #106 on: September 24, 2016, 12:30:33 AM »
So I take it that no one cares about step mashes anymore as long as no oxygen is introduced?
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Re: Hochkurz vs 150F - The 'play nice' thread
« Reply #107 on: September 24, 2016, 01:38:57 AM »
So I take it that no one cares about step mashes anymore as long as no oxygen is introduced?
The modern breweries I toured in Germany had water that had been column stripped of O2, and they did step mashes. Ayinger had about a 4 hour step profile.
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Re: Hochkurz vs 150F - The 'play nice' thread
« Reply #108 on: September 24, 2016, 01:28:47 PM »
I care about step...positive difference for me and my lagers. haven't taken any different steps to minimize O2 - need to catch up on everyone's posts and see if the hassle is worth it for me.
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Re: Hochkurz vs 150F - The 'play nice' thread
« Reply #109 on: September 24, 2016, 07:08:25 PM »
I care about step...positive difference for me and my lagers. haven't taken any different steps to minimize O2 - need to catch up on everyone's posts and see if the hassle is worth it for me.

If you wait a bit, there will be some results coming. Lots of people in the midst of experimenting. Some with brewtan and others with LODO.

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Re: Hochkurz vs 150F - The 'play nice' thread
« Reply #110 on: September 24, 2016, 07:17:25 PM »
I care about step...positive difference for me and my lagers. haven't taken any different steps to minimize O2 - need to catch up on everyone's posts and see if the hassle is worth it for me.

If you wait a bit, there will be some results coming. Lots of people in the midst of experimenting. Some with brewtan and others with LODO.

for sure....no hurry here.
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Vienna IPA          O'Fest
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Amber Ale
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Re: Hochkurz vs 150F - The 'play nice' thread
« Reply #111 on: September 28, 2016, 08:33:12 PM »
I care about step...positive difference for me and my lagers. haven't taken any different steps to minimize O2 - need to catch up on everyone's posts and see if the hassle is worth it for me.

If you wait a bit, there will be some results coming. Lots of people in the midst of experimenting. Some with brewtan and others with LODO.

for sure....no hurry here.
If you're happy with your beers now, there really isn't a need to change your process. For me, I've been pretty unhappy with many of my German beers, so I'm experimenting with low DO (can't bring myself to type LODO, just doesn't feel right).
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