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Making a Black IPA
« on: September 19, 2016, 07:45:24 AM »
Hey guys,

I'm planning in brewing. BIPA sooner than later and I would like to ask for some personal experience.

I really want the beer to be an IPA, no roasty flavours, or at least the minimum possible. Are there any black or roasted malts that can tan the beer without leaving too much flavour? What about techniques, any recommendation?
 
My hop usage was a big bunch of cascade during boil and whirlpool, and some Citra oil for the drop.

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Re: Making a Black IPA
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2016, 08:38:04 AM »
Try a grist with about 5% Carafa III malt.  Very little-to-no roasted flavors.  If you are a Beersmith user try searching for Black Friday IPA, I think I made it a public recipe.  It is scaled to my BrewEasy system.
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Re: Making a Black IPA
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2016, 09:05:47 AM »
I really like this beer. Made it a few times now. You hould ry it.
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Re: Making a Black IPA
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2016, 11:17:09 AM »
Midnight Wheat is good for coloring a beer, as it has no husk to add harsh flavors.
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Re: Making a Black IPA
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2016, 11:22:55 AM »
**edit. You beat me to it!

Less than 1oz per gallon of midnight wheat.  It is smoother than carafa III in my exp.  There are "overnight steeping" and "sparge steeping" dark grains for color that leave softer roasted flavoring (or a less astringent) but it changes the color contributions.  Which then changes the quantity of roasted malt you need.  I prefer blackprinz and/or midnight wheat to carafa malts.  At least in this style.
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Re: Making a Black IPA
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2016, 11:59:39 AM »
+2 to Midnight Wheat. Least roasty flavor of any black malt.
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Re: Making a Black IPA
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2016, 01:12:23 PM »
I have always been a Carafa III special brewer when it comes to black IPAs, but my LHBS stopped carrying it. They picked up Briess Blackprinz malt instead. I just tapped my latest Black IPA a couple weeks ago. I'm really happy with the results. I ran it at 4% and chocolate malt at 1% (the same ratio I used with Carafa III). I use the chocolate just to get a the slightest hint of roast in it. If there isn't a hint of roast, I truly don't understand spending the extra money on specialty malt just to make it black. But that's just my 2 cents.

The C hops work really well in a black IPA. I've not used a great deal of Citra in one, but I'd imagine it would be good since Citra is amazing. I kitchen sinked this last one of mine and purged my freezer of hops.
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Re: Making a Black IPA
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2016, 01:33:51 PM »
I have always been a Carafa III special brewer when it comes to black IPAs, but my LHBS stopped carrying it. They picked up Briess Blackprinz malt instead. I just tapped my latest Black IPA a couple weeks ago. I'm really happy with the results. I ran it at 4% and chocolate malt at 1% (the same ratio I used with Carafa III). I use the chocolate just to get a the slightest hint of roast in it. If there isn't a hint of roast, I truly don't understand spending the extra money on specialty malt just to make it black. But that's just my 2 cents.

The C hops work really well in a black IPA. I've not used a great deal of Citra in one, but I'd imagine it would be good since Citra is amazing. I kitchen sinked this last one of mine and purged my freezer of hops.


I feel the same, Frank. I like to use Carafa III or Midnight wheat (to control roast), then a pinch of chocolate, too. Nowhere near porter or stout roast, just a hint.
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Re: Making a Black IPA
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2016, 03:04:07 PM »
I have always been a Carafa III special brewer when it comes to black IPAs, but my LHBS stopped carrying it. They picked up Briess Blackprinz malt instead. I just tapped my latest Black IPA a couple weeks ago. I'm really happy with the results. I ran it at 4% and chocolate malt at 1% (the same ratio I used with Carafa III). I use the chocolate just to get a the slightest hint of roast in it. If there isn't a hint of roast, I truly don't understand spending the extra money on specialty malt just to make it black. But that's just my 2 cents.

The C hops work really well in a black IPA. I've not used a great deal of Citra in one, but I'd imagine it would be good since Citra is amazing. I kitchen sinked this last one of mine and purged my freezer of hops.


I feel the same, Frank. I like to use Carafa III or Midnight wheat (to control roast), then a pinch of chocolate, too. Nowhere near porter or stout roast, just a hint.

Yeah. This last one was an 11 gallon batch with a target OG of 1.067. I had 2 lb of BlackPrinz and 6 oz of Chocolate.
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Re: Making a Black IPA
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2016, 03:59:00 PM »
Make an IPA, add Sinamar
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Re: Making a Black IPA
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2016, 03:54:04 AM »
Make an IPA, add Sinamar

This is exactly what I was thinking.
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Re: Making a Black IPA
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2016, 04:01:02 PM »
Make an IPA, add Sinamar

This is exactly what I was thinking.

That's how the best one I've ever had was made.
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Re: Making a Black IPA
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2016, 09:27:37 PM »
Midnight Wheat is good for coloring a beer, as it has no husk to add harsh flavors.

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Making a Black IPA
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2016, 10:08:38 PM »
Make an IPA and turn the lights off?

I kid, I kid.

I've seen various black IPAs made with sinamar, some worked well and others didn't. What are you doing in regards to the other specialty malts Denny?
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Re: Making a Black IPA
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2016, 10:20:20 PM »
Ok, after all this talk, I'm brewing a black IPA this fall, been a couple years. Wookey Jack style, I think.
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