[Big Monk]

That poll goes to show how many people are wackadoos

[Hooper]

Calling all wackadoos...vote early...vote often

[Stevie]

 Poll is not well very written. What if a voter lives near by? What if a voter just doesn't care?

[Big Monk]

An excuse to AB InBev bash.

I guess people have a problem with all malt beers like Beck's and Kirin Ichiban brewed cheap and fresh with unparalleled consistency in the continental United States.

Go figure. Meanwhile the shelves are crammed with disgusting triple bourbon coffee chocolate porters and hop soup.

[HoosierBrew]

Another wackadoo vote.  Wackadoo = someone who knows ABI's motives/practices toward craft beer are not good, fair or honorable, and therefore jumping in the deep end of homebrewing supplies is likely not good, fair or honorable either. I know, batsh!t crazy, huh?   

[Stevie]

Do those that are anti AB also avoid Walmart, Target, Amazon, Home Depot, Lowes, Best Buy, Total Wine, Specs, BevMo? All of those can be considered anti competition.

[narvin]

An excuse to AB InBev bash.

I guess people have a problem with all malt beers like Beck's and Kirin Ichiban brewed cheap and fresh with unparalleled consistency in the continental United States.

Go figure. Meanwhile the shelves are crammed with disgusting triple bourbon coffee chocolate porters and hop soup.

Come on.  There is more to beer than low O2 😂

[Big Monk]

An excuse to AB InBev bash.

I guess people have a problem with all malt beers like Beck's and Kirin Ichiban brewed cheap and fresh with unparalleled consistency in the continental United States.

Go figure. Meanwhile the shelves are crammed with disgusting triple bourbon coffee chocolate porters and hop soup.

Come on.  There is more to beer than low O2

I'm a huge fan of Trappist Beers, Duvel, Macro Belgians, 8-9% RIS, etc.

This is a capitalist society. Nothing in our history or doctrines suggests anything less than ruthless subjugation of competition and opposition. Why should beer be any different?

[Hooper]

Another wackadoo vote.  Wackadoo = someone who knows ABI's motives/practices toward craft beer are not good, fair or honorable, and therefore jumping in the deep end of homebrewing supplies is likely not good, fair or honorable either. I know, batsh!t crazy, huh?   

I'm writing you in for President of the wackadoos...

[HoosierBrew]

Do those that are anti AB also avoid Walmart, Target, Amazon, Home Depot, Lowes, Best Buy, Total Wine, Specs, BevMo? All of those can be considered anti competition.

With the exception of Walmart (many of whose employees have to receive welfare because they aren't paid well enough to afford Walmart's own health insurance), no. But my biggest passion in life, aside from my wife, is drinking good beer and especially brewing it. ABI's motives are pretty transparent toward craft beer so far. The purchase may well prove to be no big deal. But it might also prove to be pretty impactful to us. Time will tell.

[tommymorris]

I bet if AHA takes the poll again 1 year from now and asks who has shopped at NB/MW in the last year a far higher percentage will have done so.

That being said, I get HoosierBrew's point and think it is valid.

[narvin]

An excuse to AB InBev bash.

I guess people have a problem with all malt beers like Beck's and Kirin Ichiban brewed cheap and fresh with unparalleled consistency in the continental United States.

Go figure. Meanwhile the shelves are crammed with disgusting triple bourbon coffee chocolate porters and hop soup.

Come on.  There is more to beer than low O2

I'm a huge fan of Trappist Beers, Duvel, Macro Belgians, 8-9% RIS, etc.

This is a capitalist society. Nothing in our history or doctrines suggests anything less than ruthless subjugation of competition and opposition. Why should beer be any different?

So, what in our history suggests that robber baron capitalists have ever brewed good beer 

I'm also not really that stoked by American brewed Becks.  Give me a Bitburger any day.

[Big Monk]

An excuse to AB InBev bash.

I guess people have a problem with all malt beers like Beck's and Kirin Ichiban brewed cheap and fresh with unparalleled consistency in the continental United States.

Go figure. Meanwhile the shelves are crammed with disgusting triple bourbon coffee chocolate porters and hop soup.

Come on.  There is more to beer than low O2

I'm a huge fan of Trappist Beers, Duvel, Macro Belgians, 8-9% RIS, etc.

This is a capitalist society. Nothing in our history or doctrines suggests anything less than ruthless subjugation of competition and opposition. Why should beer be any different?

So, what in our history suggests that robber baron capitalists have ever brewed good beer 

I'm also not really that stoked by American brewed Becks.  Give me a Bitburger any day.

I'm mostly just having a bit of fun with the wordplay. These threads do get people kind of fired up so its likely not nice to crack jokes.

Which is really what I'm doing. Just having a bit of fun. I found the very fresh bottle of Becks I had the other night to be fantastic. Although I drink 4 packs of Bit all the time. Great beer.

[narvin]

I thought Bavik Pils straight from the fermenter in Belgium was amazing.  Freshness matters a lot. O2 and all that.

I think a lot of people have seen beers that were bought out and expanded go downhill, and it hurts.  Inbev (Interbrew) shutting down DWC Malting's was a huge loss.   One of the few wins is that beer geek interest in traditional lambic have made some of the producers focusing on the American market go back producing some Oude Geuze.  However, I still don't think a product like that could exist as more than a niche market.

Edit: A take on the DWC acquisition http://www.yoursforgoodfermentables.com/2007/03/inbev-now-worlds-largest-brewer-over-b.html?m=1

[The Beerery]

I don't have much to add and normally I would avoid a post like this like the plague. But I saw some posts about bitburger. I love bitburger!

I know the folks at MW and NB quite well, I used to manage their forums for them and they always treated more than right. I have spoken with them about this and all are very excited for new things to come. That's all I got.