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Offline Iliff Ave

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Re: less fermentable wort issue?
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2016, 10:28:03 am »
You need to learn to read malt analysis sheets, they are your sight glass into the answers.... for instance, the Munich I have in my inventory is just as modified as the pilsner.

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Re: less fermentable wort issue?
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2016, 11:28:29 am »

Kai found much less attenuation when using Best Dark Munich in comparison to Weyermann Pilsner and Munich I when conducting single infusion mashes. As Denny noted, it very well be related to the maltster and the type of munich malt

I have found no difference between Best pils and Best dark Munich.
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Re: less fermentable wort issue?
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2016, 11:35:48 am »

Kai found much less attenuation when using Best Dark Munich in comparison to Weyermann Pilsner and Munich I when conducting single infusion mashes. As Denny noted, it very well be related to the maltster and the type of munich malt

I have found no difference between Best pils and Best dark Munich.

I said kai found a difference when compairing Weyermann Pilsner, Munich I, and Best Dark Munich...
http://braukaiser.com/documents/Effects_of_mash_parameters_on_attenuation_and_efficiency.pdf
Page 19. Maybe I am misinterpreting his results...

I didn't use Best but it just signifies what I might be seeing...
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Re: less fermentable wort issue?
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2016, 11:38:31 am »
You need to learn to read malt analysis sheets, they are your sight glass into the answers.... for instance, the Munich I have in my inventory is just as modified as the pilsner.
Other than cost savings, this is the primary reason I buy base grains by the sack.

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Re: less fermentable wort issue?
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2016, 12:12:34 pm »

I said kai found a difference when compairing Weyermann Pilsner, Munich I, and Best Dark Munich...
http://braukaiser.com/documents/Effects_of_mash_parameters_on_attenuation_and_efficiency.pdf
Page 19. Maybe I am misinterpreting his results...

I didn't use Best but it just signifies what I might be seeing...

Yep, I realized that.  Just giving another comparison.  I get great attenuation with Best pils and the same with Best dark Munich.
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Re: less fermentable wort issue?
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2016, 12:25:17 pm »

I said kai found a difference when compairing Weyermann Pilsner, Munich I, and Best Dark Munich...
http://braukaiser.com/documents/Effects_of_mash_parameters_on_attenuation_and_efficiency.pdf
Page 19. Maybe I am misinterpreting his results...

I didn't use Best but it just signifies what I might be seeing...

Yep, I realized that.  Just giving another comparison.  I get great attenuation with Best pils and the same with Best dark Munich.

Got ya. Thanks.

At this point I will shut it down as I am not getting anywhere except probably becoming an annoyance  ;)
I will just hope that the beer somehow drops a couple of points before packaging and adjust the recipe to include some pilsner, and possibly modify the mash for next attempt.

Thanks for the help all.

EDIT- I found the old thread I started regarding the first version of this beer from about a year ago. I experienced pretty much the exact same problem with Munich 6L. I didn't make any adjustments because I chalked it up to a less than healthy fermentation. I forget to go back a take a look at my notes from previous batches. This is a perfect example of why I should do so more often....

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Re: less fermentable wort issue?
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2016, 03:14:32 pm »
to me I think that is what makes you a good brewer
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Re: less fermentable wort issue?
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2016, 03:50:46 pm »
to me I think that is what makes you a good brewer

That I was able to recreate the same issue without realizing it?  ;D

The 6L and 9L must be very similarly modified I would assume. They stopped at pretty much the exact same FG...
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Re: less fermentable wort issue?
« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2016, 07:47:06 am »
The willingness to put this much effort into an issue and tracking down your notes.  Lesser brewer's would had hit the "meh. F! It button" about 3x by now.

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Re: less fermentable wort issue?
« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2016, 04:56:50 pm »
The willingness to put this much effort into an issue and tracking down your notes.  Lesser brewer's would had hit the "meh. F! It button" about 3x by now.

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Ha!  No doubt.