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English/east coast apa thoughts
« on: November 24, 2016, 08:42:33 PM »
I wanted to make a kind of a different type of apa and I kind of just melded some recipes I found together to get what I was kinda looking for here it us.

 69.7% - 9.50 lbs. American "2-row" Pale Malt
14.7% - 2.00 lbs. German Munich Malt
9.2% - 1.25 lbs. German Wheat Malt
6.4% - 0.88 lbs. Victory

.5oz magnum FWH
1oz hallertau 10
2oz cascade at Flame out
3oz hallertau dry hop

Safale 0-4

Now with the flame out cacade I was thinking of cooling it to 180 then adding it then for 20-30 min and then cooling all the way. It's kinda up in the air on what to do. Any thoughts or comments would be appreciated.

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Re: English/east coast apa thoughts
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2016, 10:14:01 PM »
It can't be English pale ale without goldings.  ;)
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Re: English/east coast apa thoughts
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2016, 02:43:36 PM »
You could also split your 2 row with some Maris Otter.
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Re: English/east coast apa thoughts
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2016, 12:29:01 AM »
Welcome to the forum.

You might be surprised at the amount of ales in Britain that use American and German hops. I have had a few.

One thing to think about is to get a British mineral profile going for the water. That and the yeast can get you there.
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Re: English/east coast apa thoughts
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2016, 04:02:55 PM »
Thanks for the advice, this was going to be a new zealand pale(wakatu and nz cascade ) but the lbs didn't have the right hops so I modify a bit to work with the similar hops .  Anyone have thoughts on the flame out right away or flame out at 180f .  Was reading that anything lower than 180 won't add bitterness just flavor ?

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Re: English/east coast apa thoughts
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2016, 04:28:55 PM »
180 would be considered a whirlpool addition.  I do flame out as it takes me a couple minutes to get to 180.  Anything at 180 adds flavor and aroma which adds perceived bitterness.
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Re: English/east coast apa thoughts
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2016, 03:18:45 AM »
What kind of flavor are you going for?

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Re: English/east coast apa thoughts
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2016, 06:11:34 PM »
Kinda spicy floral with a touch of citrus

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Re: English/east coast apa thoughts
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2016, 10:22:56 PM »
Saaz/Kazbek/Rakau/Aramis/Chinook/Idaho 7/Motueka/Nelson Sauvin/Wakatu

a blend of any of the above.  Chinook for fwh, and then build from there.
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Re: English/east coast apa thoughts
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2016, 11:11:37 PM »
Kinda spicy floral with a touch of citrus

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Saphir is a wonderful hop with noble Mittelfrueh character but with a distinct citrusy/slight tangerine character. It might single handedly give you what you're after. Also, Cascade blends really well with Mt Hood, giving you a nice floral/citrus combo with more of an American touch by comparison . But Cascade or Centennial blended with a slightly larger quantity of Sterling, Crystal, Saaz, or Hersbrucker would give you something nice and be in the vein of what you're after. 
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Re: English/east coast apa thoughts
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2016, 12:29:07 AM »
Kinda spicy floral with a touch of citrus

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Saphir is a wonderful hop with noble Mittelfrueh character but with a distinct citrusy/slight tangerine character. It might single handedly give you what you're after. Also, Cascade blends really well with Mt Hood, giving you a nice floral/citrus combo with more of an American touch by comparison . But Cascade or Centennial blended with a slightly larger quantity of Sterling, Crystal, Saaz, or Hersbrucker would give you something nice and be in the vein of what you're after.
I had a wonderful Saphir Heller Bock out of the lagering tanks at a small brewery in Germany last summer.
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Re: English/east coast apa thoughts
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2016, 12:38:56 AM »
I had a wonderful Saphir Heller Bock out of the lagering tanks at a small brewery in Germany last summer.


I really need to drink German beer at the source - someday  :). As for the Saphir, I really enjoyed the Saphir Pivo-ish pils I made for summer. It's just a great hop.
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Re: English/east coast apa thoughts
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2016, 10:28:22 PM »
My latest batch was an American amber with summit, simcoe, and saphir. Yummy!
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Re: English/east coast apa thoughts
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2016, 10:59:22 PM »
My latest batch was an American amber with summit, simcoe, and saphir. Yummy!

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Re: English/east coast apa thoughts
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2016, 10:20:12 PM »
My latest batch was an American amber with summit, simcoe, and saphir. Yummy!

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