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Belgian Golden Strong
« on: December 19, 2016, 04:31:30 PM »
So would this work?  Not as a clone of Tremens but as my own spin on a BGSA

OG 1.084
IBU 31.6
SRM 4.6
~9.2%
5L starter of 3522
Chimay or Orval boiled profile?
5.3pH
1.1 SO4/Cl
Grist
85.7% Belgian Pils 2L
17.2% Clear Syrup
(would 8oz of Aromatic be out of place?)
1oz Goldings @ 60
1oz Kazbek @ 20
1oz Kazbek @ 10
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Re: Belgian Golden Strong
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2016, 04:56:32 PM »
I'd say use table sugar, a small percentage of caramunich II to get the color around 5 and go with 5.2 pH.

Target 30 ish BU. Go with a simple water profile. Enough CaCl to hit 40 ppm.


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Re: Belgian Golden Strong
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2016, 06:50:24 PM »
Personally, I'd shoot for 40-45 IBU, but there's nothing wrong with what you're planning. I think a touch of Aromatic would be great. 8 oz would be the upper limit, I think. 4-6 ounces would be plenty to boost the color and malt flavor a bit before it starts to bring too much of that wheat toast/crust character.
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Re: Belgian Golden Strong
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2016, 07:06:37 PM »
I agree with the bump in IBU and with the aromatic at the lesser amount. I still think they add a small amount of coriander to DT (could be wrong). 1/4 - 1/2 oz crushed and added @ 10 mins left in boil could add the right subtle accent.
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Re: Belgian Golden Strong
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2016, 07:37:43 PM »
I'm planning a Belgian run soon. A table beer ok up through a BDSA. A Tripel is definitely in the works and will be similar to what is proposed here.


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Re: Belgian Golden Strong
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2016, 07:47:02 PM »
Dropping to 5oz aromatic, bumping bittering addition to 20.4 IBUs keeping the kazbek as is for 35.6IBUs. I think the coriander would work at 10 min boil

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Re: Belgian Golden Strong
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2016, 04:22:12 PM »
I'm planning a Belgian run soon. A table beer ok up through a BDSA. A Tripel is definitely in the works and will be similar to what is proposed here.


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Your tripel should include some oats and wheat.
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Belgian Golden Strong
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2016, 05:09:28 PM »
I'm planning a Belgian run soon. A table beer ok up through a BDSA. A Tripel is definitely in the works and will be similar to what is proposed here.


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Your tripel should include some oats and wheat.

It will be Pils/Pale blend (~4.5 EBC), a touch of CaraMunich II (~1%) and table sugar.

Oats and wheat may be a good idea when using a single infusion but with a 2-Step Kunze mash, the foam will be phenomenal.
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Re: Belgian Golden Strong
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2016, 05:51:04 PM »
Look at Duvel...nothing but pils malt and sugar and better foam tham nost will ever get.  You do not need oats or wheat (or carapils, etc.) for great foam.
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Belgian Golden Strong
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2016, 06:04:07 PM »
Look at Duvel...nothing but pils malt and sugar and better foam tham nost will ever get.  You do not need oats or wheat (or carapils, etc.) for great foam.

One thing you notice with Duvel and all of the monastic breweries is the ubiquity of the multi-step "DeClerck" mash. They have foam for days.

Good foam is a process thing.

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Re: Belgian Golden Strong
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2016, 06:16:19 PM »
Look at Duvel...nothing but pils malt and sugar and better foam tham nost will ever get.  You do not need oats or wheat (or carapils, etc.) for great foam.


I'm all for just pils and sugar in my tripels, too, Denny. I may try blending pils with pale malt for one, though.
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Re: Belgian Golden Strong
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2016, 06:34:00 PM »
Look at Duvel...nothing but pils malt and sugar and better foam tham nost will ever get.  You do not need oats or wheat (or carapils, etc.) for great foam.

One thing you notice with Duvel and all of the monastic breweries is the ubiquity of the multi-step "DeClerck" mash. They have foam for days.

Good foam is a process thing.

Fortunately you can get pretty much the same result with much less effort.
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Re: Belgian Golden Strong
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2016, 06:38:22 PM »
Look at Duvel...nothing but pils malt and sugar and better foam tham nost will ever get.  You do not need oats or wheat (or carapils, etc.) for great foam.

One thing you notice with Duvel and all of the monastic breweries is the ubiquity of the multi-step "DeClerck" mash. They have foam for days.

Good foam is a process thing.

Fortunately you can get pretty much the same result with much less effort.

The age old debate.

Fortunately 2 steps is all you need: β to α, α to MO.

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Re: Belgian Golden Strong
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2016, 06:40:51 PM »
Maybe I'm pouring them wrong, but in my experience not all the Trappist beers have tons of foam. 

Your tripel should include some oats and wheat.

Trying to clone Tripel Karmeliet?  Fantastic beer...
It's too close to home
And it's too near the bone

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Re: Belgian Golden Strong
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2016, 06:53:09 PM »
The age old debate.

Fortunately 2 steps is all you need: β to α, α to MO.

I do 90 min. at 148, then add 190ish sparge water for a pseudo mashout.  Works for me.
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