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EMERGENCY!!!
« on: December 25, 2016, 05:35:06 AM »
Ok, so it's not a complete emergency.... but it's still a minor emergency...

I have a couple of brews in the secondary fermenters, and decided, that since the wife and kids are away for Christmas, that I'll brew a 3rd batch while they are away.  And then I realized, I only have two air locks :o

Can I take off one air lock (the brew still has 3 weeks in the secondary, the other just in tonight) and seal the carboy with some press 'n' seal, or do I have to use the air lock?

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Re: EMERGENCY!!!
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2016, 05:41:18 AM »
Relax

Cover it with aluminum foil, and you'll be fine.
Hit the foil with sanitizer first.  Bugs can't fall up inter the foil and in.  They only fall down.

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Re: EMERGENCY!!!
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2016, 08:26:07 AM »
Don't worry.

Just cover the hole with something sanitized.

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Re: EMERGENCY!!!
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2016, 09:37:51 AM »
I would use sanitized plastic wrap and a rubber band.  The foil will allow oxygen in that is not your friend after primary fermentation is over.


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Re: EMERGENCY!!!
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2016, 11:12:45 AM »
What are you brewing for your 3rd batch?  That's likely the beer I'd just cover with foil and leave the air locks where they are.  Don't sweat this at all.

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Re: EMERGENCY!!!
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2016, 11:47:05 AM »
Do you have a black rubber cork that'll fit the hole snuggly, a small diameter 3/8 maybe an a soda bottle. Drill a hole in the cork shove the hose into it, tie the soda bottle that has water in it to the carboy, temporary air lock

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Re: EMERGENCY!!!
« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2016, 01:03:03 PM »
I concur with using foil on the new beer.

A bunch of older recipes and instructions call for transferring to secondary. The prime reason is to prevent off flavors from yeast autolysis  (dying and repturing) but that usually takes a long time to start happening. Most Ale and lager yeasts will be totally good to go plenty long enough to not need to be racked. I look at the need for a secondary fermenter being more useful if you are going to do a second fermentation, such as adding fruit.

In my opinion, based on experience, people do more harm than good by following those old instructions and racking the beer off the yeast before it's done. Look at it this way. We need the yeast to finish their job. Why fire most them when they are only half done. Not to mention the oxygen that usually gets introduced by doing so... by racking to secondary we really just decrease the chance of fully fermenting the beer and increase the risk of it staling quicker.

Plus it's less work and the less you fuss with it the less you risk introducing contamination
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Re: EMERGENCY!!!
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2016, 01:25:31 PM »
I agree with Jim.   Use foil on the new beer and leave the airlock on the older beer.
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Re: EMERGENCY!!!
« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2016, 02:19:37 PM »
Foil on the new brew it is, which is going to be a Scottish Heavy.

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Re: EMERGENCY!!!
« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2016, 05:00:09 PM »
More importantly, why do you only have two airlocks?  :o
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Re: EMERGENCY!!!
« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2016, 05:13:23 PM »
What the hell Santa? Get this man a fermentation lock.

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EMERGENCY!!!
« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2016, 08:52:28 PM »
Once one of the other two have positive pressure from CO2 I don't think you'd need an air lock for it. I'd use one of them.


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Re: EMERGENCY!!!
« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2016, 09:38:37 PM »
A friend is lending me a third airlock, so I'm good. 

I've never brewed this much beer before, we just moved, and I'm into turbo mode now!  I'm averaging two batches a month (while balancing work, a 2.5yr old, an 8 month old, and a wife!!!)  but recently the brews have been longer aging winter beers.

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Re: EMERGENCY!!!
« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2016, 09:41:37 PM »
I concur with using foil on the new beer.

A bunch of older recipes and instructions call for transferring to secondary. The prime reason is to prevent off flavors from yeast autolysis  (dying and repturing) but that usually takes a long time to start happening. Most Ale and lager yeasts will be totally good to go plenty long enough to not need to be racked. I look at the need for a secondary fermenter being more useful if you are going to do a second fermentation, such as adding fruit.

In my opinion, based on experience, people do more harm than good by following those old instructions and racking the beer off the yeast before it's done. Look at it this way. We need the yeast to finish their job. Why fire most them when they are only half done. Not to mention the oxygen that usually gets introduced by doing so... by racking to secondary we really just decrease the chance of fully fermenting the beer and increase the risk of it staling quicker.

Plus it's less work and the less you fuss with it the less you risk introducing contamination


So, would you dry hop in the primary as well?  I'm in the middle of a couple of brews I ordered from Budweiser... I mean Northern Brewer, which one is the oak aged bourbon porter, the other is the Belgian Tripel IPA (wife's birthday brew).  Both have been racked to the secondary.  But the one I'm doing tomorrow, you figure to leave it in the primary for 6 weeks (or so), until I bottle?

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Re: EMERGENCY!!!
« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2016, 10:36:47 PM »
I dry hop in primary, which I just call fermenter because if ever I secondary I just use a fermenter... so, I think they are fermenters.

6 weeks is totally fine for a Belgian strain, I wouldn't worry about that. I would dry hop for the final 4-7 days before packaging