I don't have much to add, since this is basically a s-show already.
I just want to point out that low oxygen brewing IS the best way to brew. It IS currently being taught, to all brewing professionals. ALL of the major equipment manufacturers are making low oxygen brew houses. It IS backed by nearly 100 years of REAL scientists in REAL trials and tests. IF you doubt me(which isn't even me in this case,its brewing professionals around the world), I urge you to get the literature, and attend the courses and tell them they are wrong, because there was an exbeeriment that said so.. I would love to see where that gets you.
Now, I saw NE ipa's brought up.. You do realize they are rocking low oxygen brewhouses and are fanatical about DO right? In hill farmsteads video you can CLEARLY see a copy of Kunze(The Holy brewing Bible) on dudes table, and they are rocking a German brewhouse. Also in the video you can see him venting pressure on his spunded beers in the fermenter.
Now, brewing low oxygen IS the best method to make beers, and its not debatable, well I mean you can debate, but you will be debating folks that you will lose to(obviously not me). Which has been my point the entirety. I will refer back to above when I say, it IS being taught, if you don't believe me get one of the brewing books, or take a class. I know this because I have done BOTH of those things.
I can't fault you folks who have not tasted low oxygen wort, but if you have tasted a proper low oxygen wort, the difference is so dramatic that its not even close. Right now its like trying to describe a flower to a blind person. So until the time comes when folks can get a taste, there is no point even trying to elaborate on it.
There you go again, telling people what's best for them. If you simply said "it's a great way to brew" or "the best I've found for me", you'd get no pushback from me. But to tell me it's best for me shows you nothing about the reasons I brew and comes across as arrogant.
Sigh....No, I did not even remotely close tell YOU how to brew. You can brew whichever way your little heart desires. That still does not change the fact that the current best practices being taught are low oxygen methods. I specifically stated that in the paragraph, you must have missed it. I will highlight it again.
"However, the real argument should be, can I notice a difference in my brewing VS low oxygen brewing? Not the brewing method itself. "
I agree that if you simply said "it's a great way to brew" or "the best I've found for me", you'd get no pushback from me either. Statements like this is the 'ram it down your throat' BS that riles me and possibly others on this site: "Now, brewing low oxygen IS the best method to make beers, and its not debatable..."
The sooner you guys get done thinking this is ME, the better. Yes, I am in front of you saying this at this current point in time, I will give you that. However this is not ME or MY ideals. You guys are going to have to accept that.
I want you to know I, just like all homebrewers are "hacks" in the true process. You brew how you want to, I brew how I want to, but for the millionth time.
Just because we brew the way we do does not stop the science or the schooling pertaining to the "proper" way to brew. Yes there is a right way and a wrong way, there is, thats the way it works. I am no angel in this either, I do stuff wrong all the time.. I go back again to what I said...
Challenge if you see the results in how you brew, vs lowering DO in your beer, not the method(low oxygen brewing, which may be associated with ME, but its just a term used). The method is being taught by masters in brewing science, there is a reason they teach what they teach.
Again..I am not telling anyone how to make the beer they do, but that does not change science behind how to make beer..