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Phil_M

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Re: why can't you people simply say...
« Reply #45 on: January 09, 2017, 05:12:46 am »
Fractions suck too.

Till you need a precise answer, then you'll use them even in the metric system. Sure, your final product may be 1.38 whatevers, but when you're building the equation to model it you're better off not adding in decimals.
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homoeccentricus

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Re: why can't you people simply say...
« Reply #46 on: January 09, 2017, 05:50:47 am »
How many sticks of butter are in Belgian waffles?

About three ounces of sticks in 8 waffles.
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Re: why can't you people simply say...
« Reply #47 on: January 09, 2017, 06:18:13 am »
How many sticks of butter are in Belgian waffles?

About three ounces of sticks in 8 waffles.
So 3/4 of a stick for the batter and an ounce to melt on top. See the beauty in that!?
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homoeccentricus

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Re: why can't you people simply say...
« Reply #48 on: January 09, 2017, 06:23:02 am »
Not three ounces of butter, three ounces of sticks.
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erockrph

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Re: why can't you people simply say...
« Reply #49 on: January 09, 2017, 07:32:12 am »
This is why scales have multiple settings. As long as my scale has a setting for it, I could care less what unit. And one advantage of being a pharmacist is that converting from oz/tsp/dram/minim/etc to mL is second nature to me.
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Re: why can't you people simply say...
« Reply #50 on: January 09, 2017, 07:35:44 am »
You have to blame the good people of Boston in the Victorian era.  I blame them for our dare I say, 'wankey' standardized measurments.  However someone early on pointed out, measuring in oz is my preference.  Grams are not for cooking or hops IMHO ;-)

With my typically small batch size of 1.7 gallons, I'm beginning to realize the benefits of precision, to the point that I am beginning to measure my hops in grams now instead of ounces.  I don't like measuring out 0.07 ounces of hops or whatever... it's easier to skip all the crazy zeroes and just say "2 grams".  And yes, this has been a real quantity for me at some time or another over the past year.  Actually on my last batch I finally used up almost every old gram of old hops that I had laying around, and it worked very well (only for bittering, mind you).

By the same token, I prefer to measure temperatures in Fahrenheit, since a one-degree difference in Celsius is actually quite a lot compared to the 5/9 as much Fahrenheit.
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Re: why can't you people simply say...
« Reply #51 on: January 09, 2017, 07:56:57 am »
I use 'merican for temp control, water wort and beer gallons, grain pounds. But hops are grams, DME is grams, starter water is ml, acid is ml, salts are grams. Wort and beer is SG but starter wort is °p because it figures itself out 100ml + 10g = 10 per 100 or 10°(ish)

homoeccentricus

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Re: why can't you people simply say...
« Reply #52 on: January 09, 2017, 08:16:51 am »
I use 'merican for temp control, water wort and beer gallons, grain pounds.

For me it's basically the same, just replace "use" by "understand". But I will never understand how much half a stick of phosphoric acid is.
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klickitat jim

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Re: why can't you people simply say...
« Reply #53 on: January 09, 2017, 06:15:09 pm »
It would be a step in the right direction if folks would understand the difference between by weight and by volume. Causes my turrets to flare up when folks convert or compare teaspoons to grams. A teaspoon of fluffy stuff weighs less than a teaspoon of dense stuff.

Stevie

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why can't you people simply say...
« Reply #54 on: January 09, 2017, 06:21:30 pm »
It would be a step in the right direction if folks would understand the difference between by weight and by volume. Causes my turrets to flare up when folks convert or compare teaspoons to grams. A teaspoon of fluffy stuff weighs less than a teaspoon of dense stuff.
Right, but for some items this is accounted for. For example Reinhardt's bread books (and other foodie/hipster/pretentious books) give mass and volume. With salt he also gives the volume for kosher salt and table salt. Kosher salt is a little less dense due to its shape.

Mass is the far superior unit of measure for just about any dry loose material. Volume is arguably better for liquids as liquids can have varying densities.

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Re: why can't you people simply say...
« Reply #55 on: January 09, 2017, 06:31:31 pm »
Awesome

erockrph

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Re: why can't you people simply say...
« Reply #56 on: January 09, 2017, 06:47:00 pm »
While I'm thinking of it, why would someone in Belgium be following an American recipe that calls for a stick of butter (or multiple sticks)? Is Paula Deen a big hit over there?

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narvin

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Re: why can't you people simply say...
« Reply #57 on: January 09, 2017, 09:12:04 pm »
Just remember, 4 grams is 1 teaspoon.  Of gypsum.  According to John Palmer.

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Re: why can't you people simply say...
« Reply #58 on: January 09, 2017, 09:33:23 pm »
It would be a step in the right direction if folks would understand the difference between by weight and by volume. Causes my turrets to flare up when folks convert or compare teaspoons to grams. A teaspoon of fluffy stuff weighs less than a teaspoon of dense stuff.
True.  We should be comparing teaspoons to mL.
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Re: why can't you people simply say...
« Reply #59 on: January 09, 2017, 09:37:45 pm »
Just remember, 4 grams is 1 teaspoon.  Of gypsum.  According to John Palmer.
One also must be an arborist to understand all-grain brewing.  I think.  Honestly I don't remember as I fell asleep while reading that chapter.
I did like most of the book though.
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