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malts with smooth or interesting roast qualities
« on: February 01, 2017, 10:36:52 PM »
Other than the traditional dehusked roasted malts, does anyone have any advice on something interesting for a brown ale?

My thoughts were to split the roasted malts between some carafa special which I love and something else. Grains like Brown, Chocolate Rye, Pale Chocolate come to mind. I will be using relatively small amounts. Something like 5-7 oz of the carafa special and the other malt.
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Re: malts with smooth or interesting roast qualities
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2017, 10:43:16 PM »
I love brown malt, but I'm not sure what kind of contribution you'd get with 5oz, as I've never used that little.

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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2017, 10:46:36 PM »
I love brown malt, but I'm not sure what kind of contribution you'd get with 5oz, as I've never used that little.

How much would you recommend for a 5 gallon batch? I have no experience but have read some saying it can be pretty powerful.
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Re: malts with smooth or interesting roast qualities
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2017, 10:55:53 PM »
I love brown malt, but I'm not sure what kind of contribution you'd get with 5oz, as I've never used that little.

How much would you recommend for a 5 gallon batch? I have no experience but have read some saying it can be pretty powerful.

powerfully delicious maybe haha. I like it at around 8% of my porters grain bill, but I REALLY like it. Some other folks could chime in on their usage.

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Re: malts with smooth or interesting roast qualities
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2017, 10:56:50 PM »
I love brown malt, but I'm not sure what kind of contribution you'd get with 5oz, as I've never used that little.

How much would you recommend for a 5 gallon batch? I have no experience but have read some saying it can be pretty powerful.

powerfully delicious maybe haha. I like it at around 8% of my porters grain bill, but I REALLY like it. Some other folks could chime in on their usage.

Good data point. Thanks.
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Re: malts with smooth or interesting roast qualities
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2017, 11:21:52 PM »
I really like brown malt too, but too much and your brown ale becomes a porter. I like 6-8 oz of chocolate malt in my American Brown (5 gal)  for reference. I wouldn't want more roast than that in mine. $0.02 .
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Re: malts with smooth or interesting roast qualities
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2017, 11:32:15 PM »
Call me crazy but my favorite smooth dark malt is good old fashioned Briess Chocolate malt.  I also enjoy chocolate wheat and chocolate rye.  Munch on a kernel or two of each one, whether at home or even in a shop, to know for sure what you like the best.
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Re: malts with smooth or interesting roast qualities
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2017, 12:35:06 AM »
I used Briess Midnight Wheat for the first time in a Dark Mild a batch or two ago and it surprised me with a smooth roast character.  It may be a bit to light on roast for what you are after.

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Re: malts with smooth or interesting roast qualities
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2017, 12:41:33 AM »
I really like brown malt too, but too much and your brown ale becomes a porter. I like 6-8 oz of chocolate malt in my American Brown (5 gal)  for reference. I wouldn't want more roast than that in mine. $0.02 .

Do you use other roasted malts?
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Re: malts with smooth or interesting roast qualities
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2017, 12:50:25 AM »
I really like brown malt too, but too much and your brown ale becomes a porter. I like 6-8 oz of chocolate malt in my American Brown (5 gal)  for reference. I wouldn't want more roast than that in mine. $0.02 .

Do you use other roasted malts?


Sure. I pretty much use them all in various recipes. I just posted the chocolate reference as a gauge for roastiness in brown ales since you're making one. Just worried that you might use too much brown malt amd get a roastier beer than you were after.
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Re: malts with smooth or interesting roast qualities
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2017, 12:52:16 AM »
I really like brown malt too, but too much and your brown ale becomes a porter. I like 6-8 oz of chocolate malt in my American Brown (5 gal)  for reference. I wouldn't want more roast than that in mine. $0.02 .

Do you use other roasted malts?

Sure. I pretty much use them all in various recipes. I just posted the chocolate reference as a gauge for roastiness in brown ales since you're making one. Just worried that you might use too much brown malt amd get a roastier beer than you were after.

Totally misread your post as you use 6-8 oz of brown malt
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Re: malts with smooth or interesting roast qualities
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2017, 01:04:27 AM »
I really like brown malt too, but too much and your brown ale becomes a porter. I like 6-8 oz of chocolate malt in my American Brown (5 gal)  for reference. I wouldn't want more roast than that in mine. $0.02 .

Do you use other roasted malts?

Sure. I pretty much use them all in various recipes. I just posted the chocolate reference as a gauge for roastiness in brown ales since you're making one. Just worried that you might use too much brown malt amd get a roastier beer than you were after.

Totally misread your post as you use 6-8 oz of brown malt


Sorry for creating confusion when you were talking about brown malt. ;D  My bad. I was just offering a gauge for roastiness on brown ales without veering into porter territory.
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Re: malts with smooth or interesting roast qualities
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2017, 01:10:05 AM »
Been there, done that! My last American brown was more of an American porter. Not what I expected, but still a very tasty beer. (Worked great in my chili recipe.)

FWIW, I don't feel that's a bad method to use when experimenting with brown malt, you're pretty likely to still have a drinkable beer. I've used up to 20% in a recipe, but typically use between 5-15%.
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Re: malts with smooth or interesting roast qualities
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2017, 01:45:31 AM »
OK, now I'm lost.  There's brown malt.  Then there's at least three different types (in L) of chocolate malt NOT counting rye and wheat.  And there's also three grades of Carafa Special.
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Re: malts with smooth or interesting roast qualities
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2017, 01:56:56 AM »
Don't forget Briess Black Prinz (kinda like carafa special II)
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