[WAbrewer]

I should also note that most scholarly journals are a bit more *technical* than some of the publications mentioned above, which are really more like trade publications or newsletters in terms of their tone, content, and review process. For example, Brauwelt International recently published a piece called "Israel Microbrewery received s***storm for selling beer from West Bank." Not the sort of thing you'd find in Nature or The Lancet.


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[chumley]

My wish list for the new governing committee members is that they find someone who can Make Homebrewing Great Again......and can see past the FAKE HOMEBREWING NEWS like oxygen is bad for wort. Sad.

[lupulus]

I should also note that most scholarly journals are a bit more *technical* than some of the publications mentioned above, which are really more like trade publications or newsletters in terms of their tone, content, and review process. For example, Brauwelt International recently published a piece called "Israel Microbrewery received s***storm for selling beer from West Bank." Not the sort of thing you'd find in Nature or The Lancet.


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I do not disagree but there is still quite a bit of original research.  Dissertations and thesis from Europe brewing schools are mostly published in Brauwelt. MBAA also has interesting studies. The treasure is the access to old numbers electronically. 

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[denny]

I should also note that most scholarly journals are a bit more *technical* than some of the publications mentioned above, which are really more like trade publications or newsletters in terms of their tone, content, and review process. For example, Brauwelt International recently published a piece called "Israel Microbrewery received s***storm for selling beer from West Bank." Not the sort of thing you'd find in Nature or The Lancet.


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I do not disagree but there is still quite a bit of original research.  Dissertations and thesis from Europe brewing schools are mostly published in Brauwelt. MBAA also has interesting studies. The treasure is the access to old numbers electronically. 

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I really wonder what percentage of our members would be interested in this.  Wish there was a good way to find out.

[idyllbeer]

Maybe with Survey Monkey??

[lupulus]

Maybe with Survey Monkey??

+1

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[Stevie]

I don't know if a survey would accurately capture interest. I'm not implying that many members are dumb, but these articles are very technical. A sample article would be needed so respondents can make an informed choice. If no sample is given the question might as well be "do you want more brewing related article?"

[lupulus]

I don't know if a survey would accurately capture interest. I'm not implying that many members are dumb, but these articles are very technical. A sample article would be needed so respondents can make an informed choice. If no sample is given the question might as well be "do you want more brewing related article?"

As a draft
Would you value the possibility of having a discounted / student membership to the Master Brewers Association $42 annually (vs $142 for pro brewers). See www.mbaa.com for benefits.

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[denny]

I don't know if a survey would accurately capture interest. I'm not implying that many members are dumb, but these articles are very technical. A sample article would be needed so respondents can make an informed choice. If no sample is given the question might as well be "do you want more brewing related article?"

I agree, Stevie.  On this forum, I think interest will be inflated.  Statistics the AHA has make me question how many members would really be interested in this.  Now, I know people here are gonna say "lots of people would be interested" but that's a reflection of the bias of this forum.  In general, more and more homebrewers are interested in keeping it simple.

[dmtaylor]

I don't know if a survey would accurately capture interest. I'm not implying that many members are dumb, but these articles are very technical. A sample article would be needed so respondents can make an informed choice. If no sample is given the question might as well be "do you want more brewing related article?"

I agree, Stevie.  On this forum, I think interest will be inflated.  Statistics the AHA has make me question how many members would really be interested in this.  Now, I know people here are gonna say "lots of people would be interested" but that's a reflection of the bias of this forum.  In general, more and more homebrewers are interested in keeping it simple.

I might speak for a majority of homebrewers (not in this forum but in real life) when I say:

I'd be interested in hearing a summary of multiple independent studies on method(s) or change(s) in process(es) that would be virtually guaranteed to improve the quality of my homebrews that would be so easy that a caveman could do it and that the cost for me to implement would be less than $40.  If anyone can put all that together, I'll listen.  Otherwise, I won't take much time reading detailed scientific studies that may or may not benefit me as a homebrewer.

With handfuls of exceptions, I do believe the average Joe Homebrewer would agree most with something like the above.

[lupulus]

 Let's keep in mind that the effort  required to do this is minimal, a couple of phone calls, and there is no extra cost for the member that does not want to use the benefit. The survey and its tabulation will take more time.

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[pete b]

I don't know if a survey would accurately capture interest. I'm not implying that many members are dumb, but these articles are very technical. A sample article would be needed so respondents can make an informed choice. If no sample is given the question might as well be "do you want more brewing related article?"

I agree, Stevie.  On this forum, I think interest will be inflated.  Statistics the AHA has make me question how many members would really be interested in this.  Now, I know people here are gonna say "lots of people would be interested" but that's a reflection of the bias of this forum.  In general, more and more homebrewers are interested in keeping it simple.

Plus there's the self selectivity of responses. If you are into it you are motivated to respond. If not, unless it would mean increased fees or less services, why bother. Also, what does an individual member have to lose?: " Do you think you would regularly post in a new topic called 'Homebrew Weddings'?", Sure, why the hell not?
I'm not saying this (access to journals) isn't a good idea worth looking into, just agreeing that surveys where participation is optional are essentially worthless.

[reverseapachemaster]

I didn't mean to say the AHA couldn't.  I said the GC role in it would be limited to nil.

Given the express charge to GC members in the bylaws I find this both highly surprising and concerning.

[denny]

I didn't mean to say the AHA couldn't.  I said the GC role in it would be limited to nil.

Given the express charge to GC members in the bylaws I find this both highly surprising and concerning.

Would you explain why?  We can certainly bring it up to the AHA and explain why (if) it's a good idea, but that's about it.

[pete b]

I didn't mean to say the AHA couldn't.  I said the GC role in it would be limited to nil.

Given the express charge to GC members in the bylaws I find this both highly surprising and concerning.

Would you explain why?  We can certainly bring it up to the AHA and explain why (if) it's a good idea, but that's about it.

From the AHA website:
"The members of the Governing Committee are elected by the members of the AHA and charged with shaping the policy and activities on their behalf."
I can see how someone would think that the GC members would be conduit that brought ideas like this from rank and file members like us on the forum here to the AHA.
It would be interesting to see a chart of organization for the AHA. What I'm hearing from the GC members and some wording in the by laws is that the GC and the AHA are two entities rather than the GC being part of the AHA. It explains that the GC members say things along the lines of "well we could talk to the AHA...". I had previously thought that the GC kind of was the AHA, in a sense.