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Wyeast Discontinuing Some Strains
« on: February 20, 2017, 02:30:53 PM »
At AiH last Friday, there was a note on the Wyeast cooler. It said the following strains were going to be discontinued, and will not be available when they place the next order.
2000-Budvar
2001-PU
2035- Schell
And a couple Belgian strains IIRC.

Has anyone seen or heard anything about this?
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Re: Wyeast Discontinuing Some Strains
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2017, 02:41:18 PM »
At AiH last Friday, there was a note on the Wyeast cooler. It said the following strains were going to be discontinued, and will not be available when they place the next order.
2000-Budvar
2001-PU
2035- Schell
And a couple Belgian strains IIRC.

Has anyone seen or heard anything about this?




Yeah, Drew posted on Friday about it. I was at my LHBS Saturday and verified it. It's a real shame, some good strains in there :

2000 Budvar Lager
2001 Pilsen Urquell
2035 American Lager
2042 Danish Lager
3333 German Wheat
3562 Forbidden Fruit
3942 Belgian Wheat



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Re: Wyeast Discontinuing Some Strains
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2017, 02:57:22 PM »
At AiH last Friday, there was a note on the Wyeast cooler. It said the following strains were going to be discontinued, and will not be available when they place the next order.
2000-Budvar
2001-PU
2035- Schell
And a couple Belgian strains IIRC.

Has anyone seen or heard anything about this?




Yeah, Drew posted on Friday about it. I was at my LHBS Saturday and verified it. It's a real shame, some good strains in there :

2000 Budvar Lager
2001 Pilsen Urquell
2035 American Lager
2042 Danish Lager
3333 German Wheat
3562 Forbidden Fruit
3942 Belgian Wheat
Missed Drew's post.
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Re: Wyeast Discontinuing Some Strains
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2017, 02:57:28 PM »
Whoa, holy moly!!!!!  I'm sure glad I just bought a pack of 2042 Danish Lager a few days ago!  I'll have to bank it!  I haven't tried it before but it's been on my list to try for a very long time.  Many of the others appear to be a major loss as well.

Wonder if sales have just been too slow for some, or what?  Did they provide any reasons??
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Re: Wyeast Discontinuing Some Strains
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2017, 02:59:54 PM »
Whoa, holy moly!!!!!  I'm sure glad I just bought a pack of 2042 Danish Lager a few days ago!  I'll have to bank it!  I haven't tried it before but it's been on my list to try for a very long time.  Many of the others appear to be a major loss as well.

Wonder if sales have just been too slow for some, or what?  Did they provide any reasons??



I was told slow sales, Dave. Really sucks.
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Re: Wyeast Discontinuing Some Strains
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2017, 03:05:25 PM »
I have a starter of 2035 going for a CAP. Mark said to try that one in a CAP, so I am getting around to it. If I like it, maybe I can bank it.
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Re: Wyeast Discontinuing Some Strains
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2017, 03:31:23 PM »
I have a starter of 2035 going for a CAP. Mark said to try that one in a CAP, so I am getting around to it. If I like it, maybe I can bank it.

Just so all know 2035 is not schells, I have verified this with them:

"While they claim is 2035 is the Schell's yeast (Ted questions this, because how would they have gotten a sample) the fact that we didn't bank our yeast until about 10 years ago means even if they were the same at one time, they probably drifted apart."


That being said 2035 used to be my house strain for many years.. loved that yeast.
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Re: Wyeast Discontinuing Some Strains
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2017, 04:32:09 PM »
I have a starter of 2035 going for a CAP. Mark said to try that one in a CAP, so I am getting around to it. If I like it, maybe I can bank it.

Just so all know 2035 is not schells, I have verified this with them:

"While they claim is 2035 is the Schell's yeast (Ted questions this, because how would they have gotten a sample) the fact that we didn't bank our yeast until about 10 years ago means even if they were the same at one time, they probably drifted apart."


That being said 2035 used to be my house strain for many years.. loved that yeast.

Good to know.
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Re: Wyeast Discontinuing Some Strains
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2017, 05:01:01 PM »

Just so all know 2035 is not schells, I have verified this with them:

"While they claim is 2035 is the Schell's yeast (Ted questions this, because how would they have gotten a sample) the fact that we didn't bank our yeast until about 10 years ago means even if they were the same at one time, they probably drifted apart."


Is that not true of many of the strains from Wyeast/White Labs?  You can see that in subtle differences between the supposedly same yeasts from the two companies.
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Re: Wyeast Discontinuing Some Strains
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2017, 05:03:15 PM »

Just so all know 2035 is not schells, I have verified this with them:

"While they claim is 2035 is the Schell's yeast (Ted questions this, because how would they have gotten a sample) the fact that we didn't bank our yeast until about 10 years ago means even if they were the same at one time, they probably drifted apart."



Is that not true of many of the strains from Wyeast/White Labs?  You can see that even the supposedly same strains can often differ in behavior.

Yup, yup.

Like the "Ayinger" strain that is the bottling strain of Ayinger and not the normal yeast. Hence why it has such poor flocc characteristics.
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Re: Wyeast Discontinuing Some Strains
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2017, 05:07:48 PM »

Just so all know 2035 is not schells, I have verified this with them:

"While they claim is 2035 is the Schell's yeast (Ted questions this, because how would they have gotten a sample) the fact that we didn't bank our yeast until about 10 years ago means even if they were the same at one time, they probably drifted apart."



Is that not true of many of the strains from Wyeast/White Labs?  You can see that even the supposedly same strains can often differ in behavior.

Yup, yup.

Like the "Ayinger" strain that is the bottling strain of Ayinger and not the normal yeast. Hence why it has such poor flocc characteristics.

This is one of the main reasons I want to cultivate from a fresh bottle of Chimay here in the future. They bottle with their primary strain.

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Re: Wyeast Discontinuing Some Strains
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2017, 05:08:58 PM »
FWIW, Wyeast is also bringing back some old yeasts and looking to release some totally new ones.
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Re: Wyeast Discontinuing Some Strains
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2017, 05:09:34 PM »
This is one of the main reasons I want to cultivate from a fresh bottle of Chimay here in the future. They bottle with their primary strain.

As do most Belgian breweries, according to Stan.
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Re: Wyeast Discontinuing Some Strains
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2017, 05:25:16 PM »
This is one of the main reasons I want to cultivate from a fresh bottle of Chimay here in the future. They bottle with their primary strain.

As do most Belgian breweries, according to Stan.

De Halve Maan don't (at least according to their brewery tour). 
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Re: Wyeast Discontinuing Some Strains
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2017, 05:27:05 PM »
FWIW, Wyeast is also bringing back some old yeasts and looking to release some totally new ones.

Do you any specifics on anything they're coming with?  I'm hoping for some characterFUL British strains (fingers-crossed).

I'm super bummed about 2035 and budvar - both excellent strains.  Luckily, I have 2035 in my frozen bank, but not budvar (might need to add that if I can still find it).