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Re: Bread Yeast for FFT?
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2017, 12:01:22 AM »
I had always used bread yeast because I wanted to be sure I had enough yeast to do the fft. Good info.
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Re: Bread Yeast for FFT?
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2017, 02:33:24 PM »
Checked my fermenter this morning because I heard it bubbling while I was doing laundry.

The warm water bath woke up the yeast and it's back at work with no need for the two liters of starter I've got upstairs.

FFT came down 20 points.  I'd like to get it a little lower, but this is a relatively big beer so it won't be the end of the world.  The bread yeast may have still been working, too.  It hadn't settled out clear yet.

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Re: Bread Yeast for FFT?
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2017, 03:44:56 PM »
Just because it is bubbling doesn't mean it is actually fermenting. If you warmed up the beer the co2 will start to come out of solution and cause the airlock to bubble even if there isn't active fermentation.

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Re: Bread Yeast for FFT?
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2017, 03:59:27 PM »
Right. When I checked it there was a half inch of krausen do I know it's going again. Overlooked that in my previous post.

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Re: Bread Yeast for FFT?
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2017, 04:10:08 PM »
I had always used bread yeast because I wanted to be sure I had enough yeast to do the fft. Good info.

Using extra yeast is a smart thing to do.  It accelerates the process.
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Re: Bread Yeast for FFT?
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2017, 04:13:18 PM »
I had always used bread yeast because I wanted to be sure I had enough yeast to do the fft. Good info.

Using extra yeast is a smart thing to do.  It accelerates the process.


Yeah, I've always had good results with the bread yeast.
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Re: Bread Yeast for FFT?
« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2017, 05:36:32 PM »
Brewed Friday, FFT was at final gravity today... using only yeast from the initial sample.  Who knows maybe I have been lucky the last 400 batches. 


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Re: Bread Yeast for FFT?
« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2017, 05:37:26 PM »
Brewed Friday, FFT was at final gravity today... using only yeast from the initial sample.  Who knows maybe I have been lucky the last 400 batches. 


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Whereas using bread yeast it likely would have been overnight.  Just another option.  You also used a stir plate.  Many don't.
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« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2017, 05:39:49 PM »
But then that's a false FFT as you uber pitched and overpitching effects final gravity. That and it's not your yeast. I would rather know what MY yeast is going to do since that's what matters to me.


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Re: Bread Yeast for FFT?
« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2017, 05:59:08 PM »
But then that's a false FFT as you uber pitched and overpitching effects final gravity. That and it's not your yeast. I would rather know what MY yeast is going to do since that's what matters to me.


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Not in my opinion.  You're testing the limit of fermentability of your wort, not yeast performance.  You do it your way, I'll do it mine.
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Re: Bread Yeast for FFT?
« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2017, 06:05:13 PM »
Why not test both at once, with no added work?


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Re: Bread Yeast for FFT?
« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2017, 06:13:39 PM »
Do the types of sugars that the bread yeast will consume roughly line up with what brewers yeast consumes, as in there aren't a bunch more that bread yeast will eat? 
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Re: Bread Yeast for FFT?
« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2017, 06:29:18 PM »
Well from the small wine thief sample I took from my fermenter yesterday, put in a flask on a stirplate, by this morning the yeast in suspension had already dropped out so I am assuming it has reached FG in well under 24 hrs. I will give it till later this afternoon to test the actual FG.

I like the idea of sticking with the same primary yeast being used for fermentation so one can get a better grasp on how that actual yeast will perform under the worts limits. Fast, easy, and no extra charge.

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Re: Bread Yeast for FFT?
« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2017, 06:34:36 PM »
Do the types of sugars that the bread yeast will consume roughly line up with what brewers yeast consumes, as in there aren't a bunch more that bread yeast will eat?

Yep.  Remember that originally bakers got their yeast from brewers. Same yeast strain.
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Re: Bread Yeast for FFT?
« Reply #29 on: February 26, 2017, 06:48:03 PM »
Do the types of sugars that the bread yeast will consume roughly line up with what brewers yeast consumes, as in there aren't a bunch more that bread yeast will eat?

Yep.  Remember that originally bakers got their yeast from brewers. Same yeast strain.
Same species, not same strain. I couldn't imagine brewing a batch with 3711, then pitching a packet of Windsor for my FFT. They wouldn't finish anywhere near each other. I would think that the most applicable results would be with the strain you are pitching.
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