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Re: SafAle US-05 Optimum temperature range changed on spec sheet
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2017, 01:19:40 PM »
In my honest opinion, just ignore the "recommended temp ranges" on the yeast packages.
If you are unsure of a good fermentation temp you want for your beer, just look around the forums and see what folks have been recommending for the yeast/style you are brewing.





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Re: SafAle US-05 Optimum temperature range changed on spec sheet
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2017, 04:26:31 PM »
In my honest opinion, just ignore the "recommended temp ranges" on the yeast packages.
If you are unsure of a good fermentation temp you want for your beer, just look around the forums and see what folks have been recommending for the yeast/style you are brewing.

Good point!

In my opinion US05 has an optimum range of about 58F-75F. People report "peach" and other flavor differences depending on temp but I have never detected that...
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Re: SafAle US-05 Optimum temperature range changed on spec sheet
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2017, 04:32:49 PM »
In my honest opinion, just ignore the "recommended temp ranges" on the yeast packages.
If you are unsure of a good fermentation temp you want for your beer, just look around the forums and see what folks have been recommending for the yeast/style you are brewing.

This is the best advice. And find out for yourself. People here report they like us-05 at low temps, I don't at all. Doesn't make them wrong or me right. Just preference.

FYI I like us-05 and find it cleanest at about 66-68 degrees

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Re: SafAle US-05 Optimum temperature range changed on spec sheet
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2017, 05:00:48 PM »
In my honest opinion, just ignore the "recommended temp ranges" on the yeast packages.
If you are unsure of a good fermentation temp you want for your beer, just look around the forums and see what folks have been recommending for the yeast/style you are brewing.

Good point!

In my opinion US05 has an optimum range of about 58F-75F. People report "peach" and other flavor differences depending on temp but I have never detected that...

I find the peach so objectionable that I've dumped batches of beer made with 05 and will not use it any longer.
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Re: SafAle US-05 Optimum temperature range changed on spec sheet
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2017, 05:08:42 PM »
In my honest opinion, just ignore the "recommended temp ranges" on the yeast packages.
If you are unsure of a good fermentation temp you want for your beer, just look around the forums and see what folks have been recommending for the yeast/style you are brewing.

Good point!

In my opinion US05 has an optimum range of about 58F-75F. People report "peach" and other flavor differences depending on temp but I have never detected that...

I find the peach so objectionable that I've dumped batches of beer made with 05 and will not use it any longer.

That's cool. Glad that hasn't happened to me. Maybe I don't know what peach tastes like...
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Re: SafAle US-05 Optimum temperature range changed on spec sheet
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2017, 06:03:51 PM »
When the peach is present, it's unmistakeable.  It's happened to me only when I've fermented below 55 F.
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Re: SafAle US-05 Optimum temperature range changed on spec sheet
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2017, 06:05:46 PM »
When the peach is present, it's unmistakeable.  It's happened to me only when I've fermented below 55 F.

I got it at 65F.
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Re: SafAle US-05 Optimum temperature range changed on spec sheet
« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2017, 06:50:52 PM »
In my honest opinion, just ignore the "recommended temp ranges" on the yeast packages.
If you are unsure of a good fermentation temp you want for your beer, just look around the forums and see what folks have been recommending for the yeast/style you are brewing.

Good point!

In my opinion US05 has an optimum range of about 58F-75F. People report "peach" and other flavor differences depending on temp but I have never detected that...

I find the peach so objectionable that I've dumped batches of beer made with 05 and will not use it any longer.

Do you also get peach from the liquid equivalents?

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Re: SafAle US-05 Optimum temperature range changed on spec sheet
« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2017, 06:54:40 PM »
Personally I haven't used WLP001 or 1056 in many many years so I can't speak to that.  In fact I'm on a quest to find the best 21st century dry yeast for every beer style under the sun.
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Re: SafAle US-05 Optimum temperature range changed on spec sheet
« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2017, 06:57:15 PM »
Do you also get peach from the liquid equivalents?

Nope, not at all.  And you bring up something Marshall and I have been discussing today....I don't really find all 3 to be equivalents.  I find 1056 to be drier and crisper than 001.  And 05 isn't even in the game.
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Re: SafAle US-05 Optimum temperature range changed on spec sheet
« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2017, 09:28:57 PM »
Do you also get peach from the liquid equivalents?

Nope, not at all.  And you bring up something Marshall and I have been discussing today....I don't really find all 3 to be equivalents.  I find 1056 to be drier and crisper than 001.  And 05 isn't even in the game.

hmm, might need to revisit some things and check it out. Any experience with some of the new guys "chico" strain, i.e. imperial and gigayeast?

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Re: SafAle US-05 Optimum temperature range changed on spec sheet
« Reply #26 on: March 09, 2017, 10:16:53 PM »
hmm, might need to revisit some things and check it out. Any experience with some of the new guys "chico" strain, i.e. imperial and gigayeast?

Tried the Imperial A07 Flagship.  IMO it's just like 1056.
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Re: SafAle US-05 Optimum temperature range changed on spec sheet
« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2017, 01:59:47 AM »
It's funny, Denny, I've always liked WLP001 just a tad better than Wy1056, because I thought it produced a cleaner, drier beer.  I gave US-05 a good shot, probably made about 8 or 10 batches with it, but I'm just not a fan.  I like both of the liquid Chico strains better.

After a while, I started to use the James Bond yeast WLP007 (which I also like better than Wy1098) for my IPAs and APAs because I find both of the American strains were almost too clean.  I still occasionally go back to 1056 and 001 though.


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Re: SafAle US-05 Optimum temperature range changed on spec sheet
« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2017, 07:08:43 PM »
It's funny, Denny, I've always liked WLP001 just a tad better than Wy1056, because I thought it produced a cleaner, drier beer.  I gave US-05 a good shot, probably made about 8 or 10 batches with it, but I'm just not a fan.  I like both of the liquid Chico strains better.

After a while, I started to use the James Bond yeast WLP007 (which I also like better than Wy1098) for my IPAs and APAs because I find both of the American strains were almost too clean.  I still occasionally go back to 1056 and 001 though.

I've brewed back to back bitters with WY1098 after a few years of WLP007. I also think these are a bit different and I'm going back to WLP007.

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Re: SafAle US-05 Optimum temperature range changed on spec sheet
« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2017, 07:50:31 PM »
It's funny, Denny, I've always liked WLP001 just a tad better than Wy1056, because I thought it produced a cleaner, drier beer.  I gave US-05 a good shot, probably made about 8 or 10 batches with it, but I'm just not a fan.  I like both of the liquid Chico strains better.

After a while, I started to use the James Bond yeast WLP007 (which I also like better than Wy1098) for my IPAs and APAs because I find both of the American strains were almost too clean.  I still occasionally go back to 1056 and 001 though.

I've brewed back to back bitters with WY1098 after a few years of WLP007. I also think these are a bit different and I'm going back to WLP007.



I'm in the minority and prefer 1098. I'll say I use it to be fairly clean, with only a slight ester. I've gotten away from brewing most British beers (just decided I don't care for the fruity esters), so I can't judge its estery character at higher levels. I use it for my Arrogant Bastard-ish American Strong Ale because Stone allegedly does.
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