I think I may try the caravienne, any idea on grist %? I am thinking maybe 1 oz of chocolate for some reddish hues and a small % of caravienne could get me the color and not drastically change the base of this beer. maybe sub out a pound of 2 row for the caravienne? It would look something like this
70% 2 row brewers malt Briess (1.8L)
20% White wheat
10% Caravienne
How close is caravienne to cystal malts? I am finding lately I really don't care for them except for in certain English styles, just too much raisin for me. I am hoping the caravienne stays out of the way?