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Re: Brewtan Experiment Writeup
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2017, 08:13:00 PM »
Well gadzooks.  Maybe I've got to get me some of this magical pink stuff.  Thanks to all the IGORs, Denny, and Drew, for an intriguing set of results.
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Re: Brewtan Experiment Writeup
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2017, 12:35:15 AM »
Any idea when btb will be available?

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Re: Brewtan Experiment Writeup
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2017, 01:01:31 AM »
Any idea when btb will be available?

Hopefully by summer.  I know the wholesaler is deciding this week.
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Re: Brewtan Experiment Writeup
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2017, 01:23:48 AM »
I've been using BrewTan B (off and on, mostly on) for about 2 years now in both the mash and the boil. I think, if there is a difference, it is something you will see down the road after packaging. I do notice a difference in clarity initially so I have chosen to continue to use it. I would recommend dissolving it first before the mash as well as the  boil because it gets very clumpy (unless, in the experiment, you were dissolving it in the strike water.)

It is very expensive so I'd love not to use it but I do believe it may help with shelf life. But OTOH it is very hard to judge that on the capacity that I brew on.

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Re: Brewtan Experiment Writeup
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2017, 01:35:37 AM »
I've been using BrewTan B (off and on, mostly on) for about 2 years now in both the mash and the boil. I think, if there is a difference, it is something you will see down the road after packaging. I do notice a difference in clarity initially so I have chosen to continue to use it. I would recommend dissolving it first before the mash as well as the  boil because it gets very clumpy (unless, in the experiment, you were dissolving it in the strike water.)

It is very expensive so I'd love not to use it but I do believe it may help with shelf life. But OTOH it is very hard to judge that on the capacity that I brew on.

The only question I have about the experiments is - why on the Earth would any one ever brew a CDA?

Heh heh.

Yeah, I dissolve it in the strike water as it heats.  I (we) hope to some some extended aging tests, too.
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« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2017, 01:41:28 AM »
People using municipal source water and copper components are going to immediately see and taste a difference for sure. The impact of Brewtan B alone is going to decrease the farther away from those variables you get.


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Re: Brewtan Experiment Writeup
« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2017, 02:20:19 AM »
People using municipal source water and copper components are going to immediately see and taste a difference for sure. The impact of Brewtan B alone is going to decrease the farther away from those variables you get.


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So if i use a S.S. chiller and R.O water there is no benefit of BTB?

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« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2017, 02:31:21 AM »
People using municipal source water and copper components are going to immediately see and taste a difference for sure. The impact of Brewtan B alone is going to decrease the farther away from those variables you get.


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So if i use a S.S. chiller and R.O water there is no benefit of BTB?

I wouldn't say zero benefit but it will certainly lessen as you remove variables that would necessitate its main function.

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Re: Brewtan Experiment Writeup
« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2017, 02:51:38 PM »
People using municipal source water and copper components are going to immediately see and taste a difference for sure. The impact of Brewtan B alone is going to decrease the farther away from those variables you get.


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So if i use a S.S. chiller and R.O water there is no benefit of BTB?

You'd need to try it and determine that for yourself.
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Re: Brewtan Experiment Writeup
« Reply #26 on: April 19, 2017, 09:53:50 PM »
I can't say that I know anything about the reactions that are occurring, but I definitely get a pinkish hue in the spent mash and in the foam in the break as it approaches a boil.  Some have said that it is BTB reacting to metals (iron is the suspect) in the wort (I use RO water that comes from a well at my house).  I may have to try some distilled water to see if it is just my water system.  I can say that I see a difference in clarity with BTB and I use it in the strike water and late boil, prior to and with Whirlfloc in close succession, hydrating it each time.

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« Reply #27 on: April 19, 2017, 09:55:29 PM »

I can attest to Joe's beers.  I had a recent taste of a RIS of his that took Best in Show at this year's Drunk Monk Challenge last month (out of about 700 entries, IIRC).

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« Reply #28 on: April 20, 2017, 06:03:17 PM »
So where can I get some of this magic powder?  Wasn't there some place overseas that would ship to the USA?

Also probably a silly question but the comment about spent grain turning pink made me wonder: will it still be safe to feed the spent grain to my chickens?   ;)

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Re: Brewtan Experiment Writeup
« Reply #29 on: April 20, 2017, 06:33:56 PM »
So where can I get some of this magic powder?  Wasn't there some place overseas that would ship to the USA?

Also probably a silly question but the comment about spent grain turning pink made me wonder: will it still be safe to feed the spent grain to my chickens?   ;)

Down under at https://www.ibrew.com.au/products/brewtan-b.  As for chicken feed, research food grade hydrolysable tannic acid.
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