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Help Gluten free
« on: May 18, 2017, 01:51:30 PM »
I tried to find the thread.  I can't seem to find it.  So the wife has celiac disease, and she loves beer as much as I do.  So now to make her the best beer I can make for her.  She's a fan of the Belgian styles, wheats, pale, blondes, cream, and Brown's.

So where is a reliable starting point? Link? Recipes?

I am also aware that sorghum extract for starters, but the small batches I'll be making for her will probably just be dry yeasts.  Now that I learn that liquid yeasts are not gluten free.  Then, the gluten reducers are a no go.


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Re: Help Gluten free
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2017, 01:59:10 PM »
Consider 100% oat malt.  I've had success with Clarity Ferm for making beer for people with minor gluten intolerances. 

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Re: Help Gluten free
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2017, 02:00:08 PM »
Why is clarity ferm a no go?

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Re: Help Gluten free
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2017, 02:16:09 PM »
Why is clarity ferm a no go?
Her tolerance of gluten is not just sensitivity, she's completely intolerant.  Reducing the protein to what 7ppm? It's not free of gluten which is where we have to stay.

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Re: Help Gluten free
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2017, 02:18:53 PM »
Didn't the last Zymurgy issue have a Belgian recipe that was gluten free? Maybe using rice malt?

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Re: Help Gluten free
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2017, 02:30:29 PM »
Why is clarity ferm a no go?
Her tolerance of gluten is not just sensitivity, she's completely intolerant.  Reducing the protein to what 7ppm? It's not free of gluten which is where we have to stay.

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I thought it took it lower than that.

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Re: Help Gluten free
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2017, 02:31:29 PM »
Take a listen to Experimental Brewing a couple episodes back.  We interview James Neumeister of Groundbreaker Brewing in Portland.  They have multiple GABF medals for their glutem free beers and he has tips for homebrewers. 
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Re: Help Gluten free
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2017, 02:32:00 PM »
Why is clarity ferm a no go?
Her tolerance of gluten is not just sensitivity, she's completely intolerant.  Reducing the protein to what 7ppm? It's not free of gluten which is where we have to stay.

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I thought it took it lower than that.

Nope.  Clarity Ferm will reduce but not eliminate gluten.
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Re: Help Gluten free
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2017, 02:32:09 PM »
Why is clarity ferm a no go?
Her tolerance of gluten is not just sensitivity, she's completely intolerant.  Reducing the protein to what 7ppm? It's not free of gluten which is where we have to stay.

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I thought it took it lower than that.
Correction whitelabs pdf says < 10ppm

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Re: Help Gluten free
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2017, 02:33:59 PM »
Take a listen to Experimental Brewing a couple episodes back.  We interview James Neumeister of Groundbreaker Brewing in Portland.  They have multiple GABF medals for their glutem free beers and he has tips for homebrewers.
Right on Denny thanks.

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Re: Help Gluten free
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2017, 02:35:55 PM »
Take a listen to Experimental Brewing a couple episodes back.  We interview James Neumeister of Groundbreaker Brewing in Portland.  They have multiple GABF medals for their glutem free beers and he has tips for homebrewers.
Right on Denny thanks.

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He uses a sorghum base, but uses tapioca maltodextrine for body.  He also uses things like date sugar and chestnuts.
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Re: Help Gluten free
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2017, 02:45:09 PM »
Why is clarity ferm a no go?
Her tolerance of gluten is not just sensitivity, she's completely intolerant.  Reducing the protein to what 7ppm? It's not free of gluten which is where we have to stay.

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I thought it took it lower than that.

Nope.  Clarity Ferm will reduce but not eliminate gluten.
Right, I said lower, not eliminate. I swear I saw less than 5ppm and testing at 3ppm.

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Re: Help Gluten free
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2017, 09:32:53 PM »
Why is clarity ferm a no go?
Her tolerance of gluten is not just sensitivity, she's completely intolerant.  Reducing the protein to what 7ppm? It's not free of gluten which is where we have to stay.

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I thought it took it lower than that.

Nope.  Clarity Ferm will reduce but not eliminate gluten.
Right, I said lower, not eliminate. I swear I saw less than 5ppm and testing at 3ppm.
Unfortunately the side effects are starting to damage her peripheral nervous system and she's having heart problems.  So it's a complete intolerance.  Which is rough, cause who doesn't love gluten??

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Re: Help Gluten free
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2017, 01:21:17 PM »
Consider 100% oat malt.  I've had success with Clarity Ferm for making beer for people with minor gluten intolerances.
Does oat malt have the diastic power to convert in the mash?

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