but it also doesn't mean you can discount the facts about brewing science. Those things hold true regardless. Doesn't mean you are making bad beer but it also doesn't mean that your beer couldn't be better. Why else would we devote so much time, energy and passion into this if not to help people?
There's a lot of innuendo and accusation pointing toward both sides, and finger pointing I feel directed at me in particular, and I am going to give my side.
I have almost never come in and directly questioned Bryan's or your findings. The ONLY time I ever questioned ya'lls methods was one time when I questioned why Bittburger would spend so much money on LODO methods when the sixpack I picked up suffered from diacetyl (which I believed was oxidation problem). I honestly can't remember another instance.
The entire derailment of the locked thread was because of Bryan's tirade against Denny. It was completely disrespectful. Categorizing LODO proponents as "LODO Nazis" was poor judgment on my part, especially in this age of political correctness, and "LODO zealots" would have been a better choice. I have been around for a very long time and it was once acceptable to call people "Style Nazi" and honestly, I didn't mean anything insulting by the term. I do regret using that terminology now. However, I do feel it stopped short of "name calling", as another has mentioned. It is simply not the same as calling someone a "dick", etc.
But, whatever the case, it brought everything crashing down (although, it was going down in flames from the start.) During which I was accused of "being against Bryan's methods from the beginning" ... what??? I have never, not once tried to stop him from bringing his information. If anyone feels this is so, please go and show me!
You say "forcefulness in delivery can go hand in hand with passion about a subject
" and herein lies the problem. "Forcefulness of delivery
". That has all I have ever said has been the problem.
When constant bickering starts to drive members away I feel like it is my job as a mod to try to correct the situation. Unfortunately it appears I have not gone about it the proper way. However, I will point out that I have NOT been involved with the constant bickering. Rather I have tried to STOP the bickering by barking down whom I have thought the problem was and only once it started to swing totally out of control!
There have only EVER been two people on this forum I have had strong words with: Bryan Rabe and BrewBoy. So for anyone to insinuate that I have been disrespectful to the forum members as a whole, I find that simply outrageous. In both times I grew forceful with my handling of the users because they were both causing rifts in the forum.
I will say, finally, that there isn't an issue with people bringing advanced topics to this forum. There is a problem with people coming onto this forum and acting disrespectful to other's opinions and views.Rule #3. Be respectful of the questions and comments of others. It is OK to disagree with someone, but do so with respect. Keep the AHA forum friendly and encouraging of everyone's participation. We will not tolerate rudeness, insults, personal attacks, inflammatory remarks, threats, racial/ethnic slurs, trolling, flame baiting or similarly disruptive postings.
By trying to enforce this rule I can see where I accidentally "flame bated" Bryan and Big Monk with the "Nazi" comment, but the problem is Bryan skates or literally breaks the "be respectful" on a regular basis.
If we have rules and we have mods, then what are the mods here for if not to enforce the rules???