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priming individual bottles
« on: June 07, 2017, 03:46:47 PM »
During transfer to keg I would like to do a couple of bottles as well. I have a beer gun which is a pain for me to use with my setup and have not had much luck with. I have not bottled with priming sugar in quite some time. Any feedback regarding amounts of sugar per 12 oz bottle to reach 2.4-2.5 vols of CO2? Using some quick calculators it looks like about 2g table sugar per bottle.
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Re: priming individual bottles
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2017, 03:57:53 PM »
During transfer to keg I would like to do a couple of bottles as well. I have a beer gun which is a pain for me to use with my setup and have not had much luck with. I have not bottled with priming sugar in quite some time. Any feedback regarding amounts of sugar per 12 oz bottle to reach 2.4-2.5 vols of CO2? Using some quick calculators it looks like about 2g table sugar per bottle.

I just recently added some calcs to my personal spreadsheet where I calculated the volume of the sugar solution so I could add ml amounts for bottling right off the fermenter.

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Re: priming individual bottles
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2017, 04:12:10 PM »
I suppose I can just calculate how much an entire batch needs then scale down to a per bottle amount.

Can anyone help me with the calculators and their temperature function? This is a beer that started at 50F for a few days then was ramped 2F per day until reaching 64F where it will dry hopped for a week and then cold crashed to 32F for a couple of days before packaging.

I obviously get very different amounts depending on which temperature I use.
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Re: priming individual bottles
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2017, 04:20:04 PM »
I suppose I can just calculate how much an entire batch needs then scale down to a per bottle amount.

Can anyone help me with the calculators and their temperature function? This is a beer that started at 50F for a few days then was ramped 2F per day until reaching 64F where it will dry hopped for a week and then cold crashed to 32F for a couple of days before packaging.

I obviously get very different amounts depending on which temperature I use.
You want to use the temp at FG.  That looks like 64F in your case.
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« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2017, 04:20:22 PM »
I suppose I can just calculate how much an entire batch needs then scale down to a per bottle amount.

Can anyone help me with the calculators and their temperature function? This is a beer that started at 50F for a few days then was ramped 2F per day until reaching 64F where it will dry hopped for a week and then cold crashed to 32F for a couple of days before packaging.

I obviously get very different amounts depending on which temperature I use.

You should use peak temperature.

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Re: priming individual bottles
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2017, 04:46:46 PM »
I've done it in the past with table sugar, but the Coopers carbonation drops work great and are so much easier to use. They get you right to the 2.5 volume range in a 12 oz bottle. I use them all the time for my small batches that get bottled.
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Re: priming individual bottles
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2017, 05:13:03 PM »
1 sugar cube in 12 oz provides ~ 2.5 v/v carbonation.  The cube doesn't always fit thick-walled bottles.

Correction:  I think I meant Domino Dots per next post.

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Re: priming individual bottles
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2017, 05:14:54 PM »
During transfer to keg I would like to do a couple of bottles as well. I have a beer gun which is a pain for me to use with my setup and have not had much luck with. I have not bottled with priming sugar in quite some time. Any feedback regarding amounts of sugar per 12 oz bottle to reach 2.4-2.5 vols of CO2? Using some quick calculators it looks like about 2g table sugar per bottle.

Domino Dots are 2.29 grams apiece.  They will fit through the mouth of a standard beer bottle.  The Dots are 198 cubes per pound.

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Re: priming individual bottles
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2017, 05:31:42 PM »
During transfer to keg I would like to do a couple of bottles as well. I have a beer gun which is a pain for me to use with my setup and have not had much luck with. I have not bottled with priming sugar in quite some time. Any feedback regarding amounts of sugar per 12 oz bottle to reach 2.4-2.5 vols of CO2? Using some quick calculators it looks like about 2g table sugar per bottle.

Domino Dots are 2.29 grams apiece.  They will fit through the mouth of a standard beer bottle.  The Dots are 198 cubes per pound.

Thanks all. Good to know those are a bit smaller as it looks like normal sugar cubes are 126 cubes per pound which would equate 3.6g.

Considering I am only doing 4 bottles out of one batch, getting sugar cubes or carbonation drops seems unnecessary.

It appears that I need about 2.2g per bottle to get where I want to be. For four 12 oz bottles I will likely just dissolve 8.8g sugar in 28mL of water (assuming that's enough) and dose each bottle with 7 mL of the solution. 
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« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2017, 05:38:26 PM »
You could get away with equal amounts of sugar and water and it would be plenty.

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Re: priming individual bottles
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2017, 09:08:19 PM »
It appears that I need about 2.2g per bottle to get where I want to be. For four 12 oz bottles I will likely just dissolve 8.8g sugar in 28mL of water (assuming that's enough) and dose each bottle with 7 mL of the solution.

Another option that I've used when bottling 'experimental' ( :) ) gallon batches is to add the sugar directly to the bottle.  (Yes, I did get a little variation in the carbonation level between bottles due to some scale inaccuracy - but that's often part of the fun of homebrewing).    I've also purposefully carbonated different bottles at different levels (2.0 v in 4 bottles, 2.2 v in 4 bottles, etc). 
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Re: priming individual bottles
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2017, 09:12:48 PM »
It appears that I need about 2.2g per bottle to get where I want to be. For four 12 oz bottles I will likely just dissolve 8.8g sugar in 28mL of water (assuming that's enough) and dose each bottle with 7 mL of the solution.

Another option that I've used when bottling 'experimental' ( :) ) gallon batches is to add the sugar directly to the bottle.  (Yes, I did get a little variation in the carbonation level between bottles due to some scale inaccuracy - but that's often part of the fun of homebrewing).    I've also purposefully carbonated different bottles at different levels (2.0 v in 4 bottles, 2.2 v in 4 bottles, etc).

Not opposed to that. Considering just using a funnel.
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Re: priming individual bottles
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2017, 04:22:10 PM »
1 sugar cube in 12 oz provides ~ 2.5 v/v carbonation.  The cube doesn't always fit thick-walled bottles.

Correction:  I think I meant Domino Dots per next post.

I need to check if I have cubes or dots.  I didn't realize there was a difference.

Probably cubes, as I've found them to overcarb a bit.

Coopers carbonation drops work well.  I've never had a good experience with the Muntons carb tabs.
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Re: priming individual bottles
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2017, 04:43:40 PM »
1 sugar cube in 12 oz provides ~ 2.5 v/v carbonation.  The cube doesn't always fit thick-walled bottles.

Correction:  I think I meant Domino Dots per next post.

I need to check if I have cubes or dots.  I didn't realize there was a difference.

Probably cubes, as I've found them to overcarb a bit.

Coopers carbonation drops work well.  I've never had a good experience with the Muntons carb tabs.

From what I can tell there are 126 sugar cubes per pound by most manufacturers. That equates to about 3.6g per cube which is too much for a 12 oz bottle (at least for the 2.5 vols that I am shooting for).
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Re: priming individual bottles
« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2017, 05:35:28 PM »
Honestly, I just use a 1/2 tbsp stainless measuring spoon. Not quite as precise but I'm OK with ±0.1 vol anyway.
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